RE: Hello, Anyone interested in a debate?
June 16, 2015 at 9:34 am
(This post was last modified: June 16, 2015 at 9:47 am by Ace.)
francismjenkins:
So it wasn't an ecclesiastical tribunal established by Pope Gregory IX circa 1232 for the suppression of heresy. According to your college, Wikipedia, It was active chiefly in northern Italy and southern France, becoming notorious for the use of torture. In 1542 the papal Inquisition was re-established to combat Protestantism, eventually becoming an organ of papal government? Hmmm, so you guys are now in bed with the likes of Texas. When the history books debunk their mythical view of history, they simply revise the history books. I've never been quite sure how this is different from just burning books, as authoritarians always need to do to sustain power.
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May I inquire as to which Inquisition are you referring to?
1200 France and Northern Italy
1400 Spain or Portugal
1500 England, the Netherlands, Mexico or Peru
1600 Germany or Italy
1700 Japan
1800 United States
Anima is correct in his statement in that there are several Inquisition thought history that were not all established by Papal Bull but local/ Kingly governments.
Many forget that there was also Protestant, Hindu, Buddhist, and Shinto Inquisitions throughout.
Many of the common and repeated ideas of the Inquisition are more on hearsay than historical facts. Recently, with the opening of both the Spanish and Vatican archives, there is a massive historical reexamination of this time in history; this new information on the Inquisitions has shed new light on what the Inquisitions really was and what were its actual functions.
For example, historians are finding that the Inquisition could not try non-Christians, that is to say those who were not baptized Christians. Jews, Muslims, Buddies, Hindus, and other faiths were untouchable, (never were they tried by the Inquisition because they could not be). Keep in mind that the full intent of the Inquisition was to reconcile the lost soul back to the Church. Both the Jews and Muslims that were tried by the Spanish and Portugal Inquisitions were Converto's" those who have converted to Christianity but was assumed to privately practicing their old faith.
So it wasn't an ecclesiastical tribunal established by Pope Gregory IX circa 1232 for the suppression of heresy. According to your college, Wikipedia, It was active chiefly in northern Italy and southern France, becoming notorious for the use of torture. In 1542 the papal Inquisition was re-established to combat Protestantism, eventually becoming an organ of papal government? Hmmm, so you guys are now in bed with the likes of Texas. When the history books debunk their mythical view of history, they simply revise the history books. I've never been quite sure how this is different from just burning books, as authoritarians always need to do to sustain power.
________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
May I inquire as to which Inquisition are you referring to?
1200 France and Northern Italy
1400 Spain or Portugal
1500 England, the Netherlands, Mexico or Peru
1600 Germany or Italy
1700 Japan
1800 United States
Anima is correct in his statement in that there are several Inquisition thought history that were not all established by Papal Bull but local/ Kingly governments.
Many forget that there was also Protestant, Hindu, Buddhist, and Shinto Inquisitions throughout.
Many of the common and repeated ideas of the Inquisition are more on hearsay than historical facts. Recently, with the opening of both the Spanish and Vatican archives, there is a massive historical reexamination of this time in history; this new information on the Inquisitions has shed new light on what the Inquisitions really was and what were its actual functions.
For example, historians are finding that the Inquisition could not try non-Christians, that is to say those who were not baptized Christians. Jews, Muslims, Buddies, Hindus, and other faiths were untouchable, (never were they tried by the Inquisition because they could not be). Keep in mind that the full intent of the Inquisition was to reconcile the lost soul back to the Church. Both the Jews and Muslims that were tried by the Spanish and Portugal Inquisitions were Converto's" those who have converted to Christianity but was assumed to privately practicing their old faith.
