I don't care about bible contradictions.

[Drich]

The thing is, that proves that there are errors in it and it therefore cannot be completely trusted.
It is just another book written by men, and they got things wrong.

seriously?!?! Is it your opinion that everything that potentially contains any error no matter how small can not be trusted? What about your god 'science' or more specifically the words from your prophet Darwin? did any of his words/observation contain errors? Is his whole theory to be thrown out? Are the works of Darwin and everything everyone in his field has done after him, 'just the works of men, and they got things wrong?'
It's funny how you can revere one 'work of man' and demand/reset a standard for another just to disqualify it.

 We then have no reason to believe that anything in it is right, unless it is independently verified.

 That's a foolish assumption. The bible rather more specifically the gospel is a set of instructions, that is promised to have the A/S/K'er find God. All anyone need do to verify the content of the bible is just follow the instructions in it. It is just like verifying anyother turn by turn set of instructions. The best way to verify a set of instructions is to follow said instructions.

If you still think you need a third party to verify them for you, then I can attest that I followed/Following said instructions and received what I/we have been promised.

Which pretty well destroys the Christian religion, for every thinking person.

:rolol: dumbest thing ever said on this forum. If Christianity is destroyed by such a measure then by the very same set of standards so too is all of 'science.'

There are other ancient books, also written by men, and you have no reason to pick this book (or, more properly, set of books) as being anything special.

 The reason I stand behind the bible is because I have followed the instructions their in and Found God as promised. (See nope's What does the holy Spirit do" thread for details.

You have just told us that it is not made by God and infallible,

so?

but is just another book that contains falsehoods.

That's not true.(That's a falsehood) By definition a falsehood is an intentional lie. There is a big difference between a conflicting story and an out and out lie/falsehood.

Do you see how far you have to bend the truth to make your point? If your efforts were legit, why would you have to lie about the contents of the bible or my representation of it?

 If God had actually guided the authors, they would not get things wrong, unless God himself is a liar and wanted it that way.

Why does God have to be a liar to want error in the bible?

Error in the bible keeps foolish man from worship a work of God as God himself. Look at how some of us worship the things supposedly touched by God, look at the quests and ledgends told about relics of Christ and the deciples. The crap they supposedly left behind are worshiped as idols that somehow represent God... Now imagine the perverse worship and false sense of deity placed on a work of God. One that could be verified...

To put it another way If we all have been given this life outside the known glory of God to choose whether or not we want to spend eternity with him or not. why then would He leave a verifiable part of His known/knowable glory behind?

God has intentionally hidden himself so we can have the freedom to choose whether or not we would like to spend eternity with Him. This choice ceases to be a Choice when God's glory is known.

There are also contradictions that are clearly not trivial, nor do they depend on the particular translation, as the stories themselves are incompatible.  For example:

In Luke 1:26-35, we have:
26 In the sixth month of Elizabeth’s pregnancy, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee, 27 to a virgin pledged to be married to a man named Joseph, a descendant of David. The virgin’s name was Mary. 28 The angel went to her and said, “Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you.”

29 Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be. 30 But the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary; you have found favor with God. 31 You will conceive and give birth to a son, and you are to call him Jesus. 32 He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, 33 and he will reign over Jacob’s descendants forever; his kingdom will never end.”

34 “How will this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?”

35 The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.


But in Luke 2:41-50:41 Every year Jesus’ parents went to Jerusalem for the Festival of the Passover. 42 When he was twelve years old, they went up to the festival, according to the custom. 43 After the festival was over, while his parents were returning home, the boy Jesus stayed behind in Jerusalem, but they were unaware of it. 44 Thinking he was in their company, they traveled on for a day. Then they began looking for him among their relatives and friends. 45 When they did not find him, they went back to Jerusalem to look for him. 46 After three days they found him in the temple courts, sitting among the teachers, listening to them and asking them questions. 47 Everyone who heard him was amazed at his understanding and his answers. 48 When his parents saw him, they were astonished. His mother said to him, “Son, why have you treated us like this? Your father and I have been anxiously searching for you.”

49 [b]“Why were you searching for me?” he asked. “Didn’t you know I had to be in my Father’s house?”[ 50 But they did not understand what he was saying to them.

Now, how is it that they did not understand what Jesus was saying there? There is no way you are is going to forget an angel visiting you and telling you that your virgin fiancée has been impregnated by God, so you should go ahead and marry her anyway. So if this later story is true, the earlier one about the virgin birth is false. The story is not consistent with itself.

I think you have confused yourself with all that king james English. I am going to replace your version with something easier to read... So read the two passages you left again... Did you see and understand it this time?

Good! See sometimes it's not even the matter of translating from greek to English. Sometimes it is a matter of translating the King James English to something you can understand.

(just incase you missed it) Jesus had the same question you do. In essence He is point to his deity/When and where He came from and reminding them of it, yet they did not see Him that way. (which is why they did not understand what He said) To them (since this is His first recorded 'event') They probably saw him as one of the kids.

Just FYI if you or your 'source' points to a contradiction in the same book (one passage seems to conflict with what another says) then know it is your understanding of what is being said that is in error. Don't believe the leftist/Atheist brainwashing propaganda. Their are those of us who have poured ourselves over the text and found them to be solid. The biggest problem people like you have with the 'bible' is trying to reconcile a dead English dialect... there is just enough English in there to give you the false sense of full contextual knowledge, when in fact (per your own example) you don't even know what is being discussed.

So we have reason to doubt everything,

Yeah?, so do we in 1thess 5:21'Question all things and hold on to what is good.' Again don't be daft and believe that all Christians check logic and reason at the door. Some of us have questioned everything, and in the end found God.

as it is just a mess rather than a coherent story.

 Again try reading a different version. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=NIV

And that is even keeping with the same book of the Bible, and not bothering with inconsistencies from one book to the next.  It is a huge pile of crap, that no thinking person can take seriously.

Do you know what is really funny? All you 'thinking people" come to the exact same conclusion based on the same failed evidence. You would think a 'thinking person' once shown something like "the skeptics annoted bible answered." would have taken that resource and examined it before posting a supposed 'contradiction' like you posted. But, I guess unless 'thinking people' are told what to 'think' about a unknown or an answer to a pivotal argument in your anti-theology you just keep on toeing the same old line.

(I'm saying your a sheep who 'thinks' like the heard thinks, and this is evidenced by you inablity to adjust your argument to compensate for the resource I provided, that answers 99.999% of all supposed contradictions/conflicts in the bible. So that means you and people who fancy themselves 'thinkers' really don't think as much as they been told they think they do. what's even more ironic is the fact that the SAB has been answered, which means the Christians who took the time to answer the SAB actually put in more thought than those who wrote the SAB):Rolol: Yeah, thinkers.. that describes the lot of you..

It greatly resembles other writings of primitive, ignorant, superstitious people, and is of no value as a guide to life, or as a guide to anything even important historically.

Who told you to think this? or have you actually done a comparative study?
(I have 10-15 years, and I found nothing like the bible)

 The virgin birth, miracle cures, it is all the same sort of BS nonsense one finds in other ancient texts, written by other primitive, ignorant, superstitious people than the primitive, ignorant, superstitious people who wrote the Bible.

such as?

Even you know that it contains falsehood, and yet you pretend that it is somehow a guide to life.  But it cannot be a reliable guide when it gets things wrong.

Please point to a 'falsehood.' Remember you are bound by the definition of Falshood and actual Book Chapter and verse... And Go!

Lame attempt to move goal post in 3..2..1...