(June 19, 2015 at 9:49 am)Neimenovic Wrote: That word, spiritual. What does it mean?In context, of or From the Holy Spirit.
Quote:How does anyone know anything about god's nature?For me, it was the gradual opening my eyes to what the bible has said all along. Before God opened my eye I had a picture of Him like most in and out of the church do. But as I matured spiritually what the bible said spoke as loudly as what the bible did not say about God. For instance:
The idea's or doctrines of an Omni max God are pretty standard beliefs in and out of the church.
I use to always have trouble when people out of the church would challenge this 'Omni-max' idea of God. Especially the Omni-benevolent attribute of God. (If God is all loving then why do bad things happen.) I studied my tail of trying to reconcile the idea of an Omni max God against all the different paradoxes assoceiated with the ideas of an Omni max God.
Then one day while going over it in my head, God opened my eyes to the plain as day simple truth. In the bible He never describes Himself as Omni-max God, nor did He ever say He was Omni-benevolent. Yes He does use some Omni attributes to describe the nature of His Characteristics but the are not his defining qualities. So the Question then becomes What are His defining Charactistics as HE Defines them? He says He is alpha and Omega the Beginning and End of all things. I know I have always been very familiar with this description, but never knew what it meant or how to apply it. Until He opened my eyes. To be Alpha and Omega, means He answers to no one or nothing. All of creation answers to Him. That means God could create a rock so Big He could not lift it IF He wanted too, Or He could not. For an Omni-Max God this is a problem. For an Alpha and Omega it is not.
The answers to who God is and His revealed nature are and always have been in the bible. However it takes the direction and an eye opening experience of the Holy Spirit to see Him for who He has shared with us to be.
Is God more than what He has shared? absolutely that is by the very nature of being a Infinate being. But at the same time what has been shared is finite, and as we are finite We can know a great deal of god, because He has already shared it.
Quote:How does this fit with 'mysterious ways'?As one matures in the Spirit the 'mystery' gets solved. Sure there are still questions, but as one matures in the Spirit those questions get answered one by one, and if you remain faithful your knowledge and access to God/The Holy Spirit increases. I have always said the reason I do what I do here is because God has answered ALL my questions, and now I seek yours inorder to have a deeper understanding of Him.
I may not always give an answer that you all like or even agree with, but I have never once ever had to default to 'God works in mysterious ways.'