(June 20, 2015 at 12:38 am)Rhythm Wrote: Talking about 1st Macabees...it does -begin- with the rise (and fall) of Alexander.......which was the beginning of the hellenistic period - and when the cultural fate of the western world was essentially sealed by the defeat of Persians.....so....by time we get to 2nd Macabees we have jewsh heros setting up little "mini-greeces"...pissing off fundamentalists. The narrative, overall, tells us that the underdogs (the "more jewy jews") won -some sort of victory-....but if they did...it appears that they;d somehow turned into the very enemy they were fighting by conflicts end......reminded a bit of some remarks by JFK...on that count..at a much later time and slightly different place, lol.Are you familar with Antiochus IV Epiphanes? He was a real person and his deeds are discussed in the Maccabee books. He was a biblical god.
But, which story, specifically, and what of it?
(and mind you, I'm only considering the details of the story..not vouching for their accuracy in any specific sense..lol)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiochus_IV_Epiphanes