(June 20, 2015 at 11:17 am)Jenny A Wrote:(June 20, 2015 at 11:08 am)Drich Wrote: The bible will aloow you to decern God's word from the word of man. If anyone has to use several verse fragments from many different points in scripture to build a doctrine then it is not of God. If you ever notice how I teach I don't ever quote verse fragments. I use whole blocks of text sometimes complete chapters and even books to drive a point. If a person has to scrap together fragments it is because the bible is silent on the matter. We must endeavor to speak where God speaks and remain silent where God is silent.
That's the thing. In Islam Mohammad and a few other top ranking prophets in that religion were the only one's to 'know' anything of God. God to them does not mingle with common people. only the most holy prophets. So if a muslim tells you he knows allah he either does not understand his religion or he is lying. Because at best he can only know of his God through what his prophets wrote down.
ask for book chapter and verse. If it is not found contextually that doctrine is not of God.
You've got the cart before the horse. I can't rely on the Bible to arbitrate between people who claim to know god, because the Bible itself is a set of reports by a variety of authors of what they think god said. They don't always agree with each other. The Koran is another report of what a man thinks god says. The Book of Mormon is yet another. There is a vast body of Hindu scripture too, and on and on. ALL of these authors claimed to have known god and reported back. And they all contradict each other. There is nothing to distinguish one as more likely to be true than the other.
Actually, the other two books written were not ever claimed to be directly from God. They were written from what had been communicated from "angels."
The problem there is both sides have them. The 'prophets' who wrote said books simply assumed the angels were from God. Either your intentionally confusing the issue (or trying to by claiming a single source) or you don't know what it is you are talking about.