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Church and State
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RE: Church and State
(June 24, 2015 at 8:08 pm)Metis Wrote: I suppose your first point is true in America. There any old hack can set up a Church and issue certificates but I dare wager when they say they accept baptismal certificates there will be some provisos. In Europe and Canada it's not even close to as easy, I don't think you're even legally allowed to issue any form of identity confirmation without the support of an established Church (i.e: Anglicans can but Baptists can't).

The screenshot contains rules for obtaining an American passport. (.gov)

(June 24, 2015 at 8:27 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote:
(June 24, 2015 at 6:28 pm)das_atheist Wrote: Yes.

The first amendment does not allow the state to respect the church in any legal way. It also lets you pray in school so don't be too mad.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

What law are you even talking about? It's not like the government is requiring anyone to list religious records in order to obtain a passport.

Check this out, https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/establishment_clause

Make sure to get past the first ", but".

Why are you talking about requiring religious records to obtain a passport? That is called a straw man argument. The issue is that religious people have more options to obtain a passport than nonreligious people. Why does the family bible count more than the family journal?
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Church and State - by das_atheist - June 24, 2015 at 4:54 pm
RE: Church and State - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 24, 2015 at 5:01 pm
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 24, 2015 at 6:28 pm
RE: Church and State - by rexbeccarox - June 24, 2015 at 8:27 pm
RE: Church and State - by vorlon13 - June 24, 2015 at 5:27 pm
RE: Church and State - by Minimalist - June 24, 2015 at 5:47 pm
RE: Church and State - by Faith No More - June 24, 2015 at 6:33 pm
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 24, 2015 at 6:36 pm
RE: Church and State - by Minimalist - June 24, 2015 at 6:41 pm
RE: Church and State - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 24, 2015 at 6:42 pm
RE: Church and State - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 24, 2015 at 6:44 pm
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 24, 2015 at 6:56 pm
RE: Church and State - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 24, 2015 at 7:47 pm
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 24, 2015 at 8:18 pm
RE: Church and State - by Metis - June 24, 2015 at 7:50 pm
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 24, 2015 at 8:01 pm
RE: Church and State - by Metis - June 24, 2015 at 8:08 pm
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 24, 2015 at 8:38 pm
RE: Church and State - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 24, 2015 at 7:55 pm
RE: Church and State - by Metis - June 24, 2015 at 7:59 pm
Church and State - by KUSA - June 24, 2015 at 8:52 pm
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 24, 2015 at 8:58 pm
RE: Church and State - by brewer - June 24, 2015 at 9:00 pm
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 24, 2015 at 9:09 pm
RE: Church and State - by brewer - June 24, 2015 at 9:18 pm
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 24, 2015 at 9:22 pm
RE: Church and State - by brewer - June 24, 2015 at 9:26 pm
RE: Church and State - by rexbeccarox - June 24, 2015 at 9:25 pm
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 24, 2015 at 9:35 pm
RE: Church and State - by brewer - June 24, 2015 at 10:01 pm
RE: Church and State - by rexbeccarox - June 24, 2015 at 9:16 pm
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 24, 2015 at 9:18 pm
Church and State - by KUSA - June 24, 2015 at 9:21 pm
RE: Church and State - by rexbeccarox - June 24, 2015 at 9:48 pm
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 24, 2015 at 10:58 pm
RE: Church and State - by rexbeccarox - June 24, 2015 at 11:05 pm
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 24, 2015 at 11:18 pm
RE: Church and State - by rexbeccarox - June 24, 2015 at 11:44 pm
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 24, 2015 at 11:51 pm
RE: Church and State - by rexbeccarox - June 25, 2015 at 12:00 am
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 25, 2015 at 12:06 am
RE: Church and State - by rexbeccarox - June 25, 2015 at 12:17 am
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 25, 2015 at 12:20 am
RE: Church and State - by rexbeccarox - June 25, 2015 at 12:21 am
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 25, 2015 at 12:42 am
RE: Church and State - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 25, 2015 at 2:04 am
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 25, 2015 at 2:13 am
RE: Church and State - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 25, 2015 at 2:25 am
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 25, 2015 at 2:32 am

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