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Church and State
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RE: Church and State
(June 24, 2015 at 11:44 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote:
(June 24, 2015 at 11:18 pm)das_atheist Wrote: Religious records are not controlled by the state so they cannot be trusted. The options of delayed birth certificate, hospital records, and early school records are more than enough for both believers and nonbelievers. 

The only evidence the state should accept for proof of citizenship should be state controlled records. I don't think atheist should have an easier way to fake their citizenship either.

... but hospital and school records aren't necessarily controlled by the state, either.  And why do you assume "faked" citizenship?

The state has complete control of school records and has lots of control over hospital records.

http://library.ahima.org/xpedio/groups/p...ok1_049252
http://s1.sos.mo.gov/CMSImages/LocalReco...School.pdf

The state has no control over religious records. Their records will be easier to fake and impossible to audit unless we create rules for how the church keeps their records.
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Church and State - by das_atheist - June 24, 2015 at 4:54 pm
RE: Church and State - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 24, 2015 at 5:01 pm
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 24, 2015 at 6:28 pm
RE: Church and State - by rexbeccarox - June 24, 2015 at 8:27 pm
RE: Church and State - by vorlon13 - June 24, 2015 at 5:27 pm
RE: Church and State - by Minimalist - June 24, 2015 at 5:47 pm
RE: Church and State - by Faith No More - June 24, 2015 at 6:33 pm
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 24, 2015 at 6:36 pm
RE: Church and State - by Minimalist - June 24, 2015 at 6:41 pm
RE: Church and State - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 24, 2015 at 6:42 pm
RE: Church and State - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 24, 2015 at 6:44 pm
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 24, 2015 at 6:56 pm
RE: Church and State - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 24, 2015 at 7:47 pm
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 24, 2015 at 8:18 pm
RE: Church and State - by Metis - June 24, 2015 at 7:50 pm
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 24, 2015 at 8:01 pm
RE: Church and State - by Metis - June 24, 2015 at 8:08 pm
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 24, 2015 at 8:38 pm
RE: Church and State - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 24, 2015 at 7:55 pm
RE: Church and State - by Metis - June 24, 2015 at 7:59 pm
Church and State - by KUSA - June 24, 2015 at 8:52 pm
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 24, 2015 at 8:58 pm
RE: Church and State - by brewer - June 24, 2015 at 9:00 pm
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 24, 2015 at 9:09 pm
RE: Church and State - by brewer - June 24, 2015 at 9:18 pm
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 24, 2015 at 9:22 pm
RE: Church and State - by brewer - June 24, 2015 at 9:26 pm
RE: Church and State - by rexbeccarox - June 24, 2015 at 9:25 pm
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 24, 2015 at 9:35 pm
RE: Church and State - by brewer - June 24, 2015 at 10:01 pm
RE: Church and State - by rexbeccarox - June 24, 2015 at 9:16 pm
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 24, 2015 at 9:18 pm
Church and State - by KUSA - June 24, 2015 at 9:21 pm
RE: Church and State - by rexbeccarox - June 24, 2015 at 9:48 pm
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 24, 2015 at 10:58 pm
RE: Church and State - by rexbeccarox - June 24, 2015 at 11:05 pm
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 24, 2015 at 11:18 pm
RE: Church and State - by rexbeccarox - June 24, 2015 at 11:44 pm
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 24, 2015 at 11:51 pm
RE: Church and State - by rexbeccarox - June 25, 2015 at 12:00 am
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 25, 2015 at 12:06 am
RE: Church and State - by rexbeccarox - June 25, 2015 at 12:17 am
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 25, 2015 at 12:20 am
RE: Church and State - by rexbeccarox - June 25, 2015 at 12:21 am
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 25, 2015 at 12:42 am
RE: Church and State - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 25, 2015 at 2:04 am
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 25, 2015 at 2:13 am
RE: Church and State - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 25, 2015 at 2:25 am
RE: Church and State - by das_atheist - June 25, 2015 at 2:32 am

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