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What if the bible were rewritten?
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RE: What if the bible were rewritten?
(June 25, 2015 at 11:56 am)Tonus Wrote:
(June 24, 2015 at 4:52 pm)SteveII Wrote: So, you have decided that God did not have morally sufficient reasons for his actions. Why wouldn't uncaused creator of the universe, who in his nature, defines good, has the benefit of seeing every possible action of every possible person from the beginning to the end of time, have sufficient cause to act as he sees fit.

It amazes me that you can describe him that way and not realize how terrifying he is.  In other words, god needs no moral cover for his actions and can do whatever he pleases and we'd better thank him for it or he'll show us just how many new ways he can make us scream in torment and horror.  And as we see in the OT, he's a needy, emotional wreck just itching for a chance to massively ruin your day.

That's the guy you want to spend eternity with.  And you think he'll never turn on you, for some reason you can't logically defend.  And you don't think there's an argument against god here.  Outstanding.
You are zeroing in on a few of the stories. There are many many places where God shows mercy and a willingness to withhold judgement. Every one of the objectionable stories you are thinking of involved judgement for individual and/or systemic wickedness (which was clearly spelled out prior to the judgment). To support your characterization of God, you would have to show that he did not have the authority to judge wickedness OR that withholding judgement would have resulted in more good (at some point in the future timeline). 

Most of you are missing a very big component. Yes, God is omnipotent, but he has created a world of beings with freewill. Knowing we would choose to sin, he, from the very beginning, planned for a process of redemption (the NT): The Edenic Covenant (Genesis 3:15); Abrahamic Covenant (Genesis 12, 13, 22); Davidic Covenant (2 Samuel 7). 

There is a doctrine of God's foreknowledge which I find philosophically appealing: God (with an infinitely powerful mind), surveyed all possible worlds in which he created beings with freewill, and with knowledge of what every being would freely choose to do in any given circumstance, actualized the world with the greatest eternal good.  This includes his interactions, his commands, his answers/no answers to prayers, and of course an eventual plan of redemption.
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What if the bible were rewritten? - by IATIA - June 23, 2015 at 7:31 pm
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by Minimalist - June 23, 2015 at 7:41 pm
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by Metis - June 23, 2015 at 7:43 pm
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by IATIA - June 23, 2015 at 7:54 pm
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by vorlon13 - June 24, 2015 at 12:42 am
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by robvalue - June 24, 2015 at 1:15 am
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by Pyrrho - June 24, 2015 at 4:29 pm
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by Coreni - June 25, 2015 at 6:32 pm
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by Metis - June 25, 2015 at 6:35 pm
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by abaris - June 26, 2015 at 12:02 pm
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by robvalue - June 26, 2015 at 9:42 am
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by Longhorn - June 24, 2015 at 1:30 am
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by robvalue - June 24, 2015 at 1:38 am
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by Cato - June 24, 2015 at 4:34 pm
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by SteveII - June 24, 2015 at 4:41 pm
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by IATIA - June 24, 2015 at 5:42 pm
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by Minimalist - June 24, 2015 at 4:43 pm
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by SteveII - June 24, 2015 at 4:52 pm
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by Iroscato - June 24, 2015 at 4:55 pm
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by SteveII - June 24, 2015 at 4:59 pm
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by Cato - June 24, 2015 at 5:04 pm
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by SteveII - June 24, 2015 at 5:11 pm
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by Metis - June 25, 2015 at 12:45 pm
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by Crossless1 - June 24, 2015 at 5:16 pm
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by abaris - June 24, 2015 at 5:17 pm
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by Pyrrho - June 25, 2015 at 11:28 am
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by Tonus - June 25, 2015 at 11:56 am
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by SteveII - June 26, 2015 at 8:24 am
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by Cato - June 26, 2015 at 8:32 am
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by SteveII - June 26, 2015 at 8:46 am
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by Tonus - June 26, 2015 at 9:28 am
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by SteveII - June 26, 2015 at 11:07 am
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by Tonus - June 26, 2015 at 11:38 am
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by SteveII - June 26, 2015 at 12:40 pm
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by Tonus - June 26, 2015 at 1:35 pm
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by Pyrrho - June 26, 2015 at 12:38 pm
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by Minimalist - June 24, 2015 at 5:46 pm
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by SteveII - June 25, 2015 at 10:00 am
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by Crossless1 - June 25, 2015 at 10:15 am
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by IATIA - June 25, 2015 at 5:13 pm
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by Minimalist - June 25, 2015 at 12:04 pm
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by Minimalist - June 26, 2015 at 12:52 pm
RE: What if the bible were rewritten? - by dyresand - June 26, 2015 at 4:41 pm

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