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Proving The Resurrection By the Minimal Facts Approach
RE: Proving The Resurrection By the Minimal Facts Approach
(June 27, 2015 at 6:33 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote:
(June 27, 2015 at 6:28 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: No, rob. Eve disobeyed God knowingly. You can argue about whether she had full knowledge of what "sin" was, but it doesn't change the fact that she was clear on God's command about eating the fruit:

Genesis 3:1-2
Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?” 2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”

So, Eve knew God's command, and she disobeyed Him, anyway.

If she had no knowledge of good or evil, she would not be able to determine that disobeying gods command was bad.

If it is your opinion that Eve had NO knowledge of good or evil whatsoever, then why does the next few verses say:

Genesis 3:6
6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it.

Eve knew:

1. the tree was "GOOD for food"
2. GOOD to look at ("pleasing to the eye")
3. GOOD for gaining knowledge ("desirable for gaining wisdom").

Clearly, there are at least three ways that Eve knew that something was "good"; thus, we can see that she did have some basic understanding of "good" and "evil" and from this alone she should have been able to grasp that disobeying God was NOT good - especially in light of His warning that they would die if they ate of that tree.

This is just another attempt to make God a moral monster by blaming Him for our human failings.
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RE: Proving The Resurrection By the Minimal Facts Approach - by Randy Carson - June 27, 2015 at 7:06 pm

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