(June 27, 2015 at 6:43 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: 1. The New Testament uses the word "Church" 114 times, so yeah, the Church existed before the writing of the New Testament was completed.
2. Ignatius of Antioch gives us the name of that Church, the "Catholic Church" in a letter he wrote in AD 107.
3. The word "bishop" is derived from the Greek word "episcopoi" - a word that is very much in use in the pages of the New Testament.
I was talking about real history. Archeological finds included. Not bible proves bible and christian claims. Catholic mean nothing else than the whole church. Which is an overstatement given the schisms existing right from the get go.
And I'm, still talking to a wall as far as as real history is concerned. So don't be suprised if nobody is impressed by you "fact" finding mission.