(June 27, 2015 at 9:41 pm)Esquilax Wrote:(June 27, 2015 at 8:53 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: No, Equislax, in what is quite possibly my last response to you, I'm going to point out that in response to a few idiots who keep trying to say that Eve had NO knowledge of "good" whatsoever prior to eating the apple in a blatant attempt to place ALL the blame for her disobedience on God, I'm saying that Eve was intelligent enough and endowed with sufficient understanding of right and wrong to know that disobeying God was a VERY BAD THING.
Seriously? You're just going to persist in this sophistry? Fine then: Eve had no knowledge of good in the relevant sense, that would equip her with the ability to make an informed decision on the subject. It's the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, after all; if your assertion is that Eve had this knowledge prior to eating the fruit, then what did the fruit confer to her that was any different than what she already knew? It had some effect, the narrative makes that clear, but you're asserting that she was already in possession of what the fruit supposedly confers.
Quote:Stop and think for just once, okay? Are you really going to insist that God gave Adam and Eve a command that they could not obey?
You mean like, say, "be free from sin to enter heaven," while simultaneously considering every human to possess original sin, making this impossible?
Yes, yes, Jesus, but: Jesus is a new testament figure, meaning there was a period of a long ass time, in the old testament, in which god truly did give a command that it was impossible to obey. Or does the catholic church no longer accept the doctrine of original sin? It's so hard to tell, what with all that infallible doctrine changing so often.
Have you ever read a book of Catholic theology? If so, which one?
