RE: Hello, Anyone interested in a debate?
June 28, 2015 at 1:51 pm
(This post was last modified: June 28, 2015 at 1:55 pm by nihilistcat.)
It's not just lack of evidence concerning the existence of a god, it's the origins of the claims from which the human belief in god(s) arose, and an analysis of the conditions under which those claims and associated superstitions came about. Moreover, it's the fact that the narrative is continually changed from literal to figurative as science closes more and more of the gaps where god(s) have been fit into (due to scientific ignorance).
You seem to credit the Catholic Church for being insightful enough to always give itself enough wiggle room and plausible deniability (drafting doctrines in ways that --although it may deviate sharply from the commonly held views the church itself allowed to flourish-- are obscure enough to amend in the face of new information), and you'd probably attribute this insightful approach to doctrine to divine guidance (while making all sorts of excuses for its horrible behavior over the centuries). Well, if you're going to attribute their supposed prescience (which I would characterize as merely good politics) to godly magic, then why wouldn't you hold them to a godly standard when analyzing their crimes (rather than defending the church by claiming they weren't quite as bad as other nations or institutions that existed during the same period that these atrocities took place)?
I could go on and on with this ... but why bother. Pseudo-smart people (who lack the distance from their own beliefs to critique or opine on those beliefs in any meaningful way) will continue on with their drivel, we will continue to contest their claims, yada yada yada. As we move forward, religion will continue to recede (to your chagrin). And yeah, oh well ... too bad so sad! More gibberish in the scrap heap of history
You seem to credit the Catholic Church for being insightful enough to always give itself enough wiggle room and plausible deniability (drafting doctrines in ways that --although it may deviate sharply from the commonly held views the church itself allowed to flourish-- are obscure enough to amend in the face of new information), and you'd probably attribute this insightful approach to doctrine to divine guidance (while making all sorts of excuses for its horrible behavior over the centuries). Well, if you're going to attribute their supposed prescience (which I would characterize as merely good politics) to godly magic, then why wouldn't you hold them to a godly standard when analyzing their crimes (rather than defending the church by claiming they weren't quite as bad as other nations or institutions that existed during the same period that these atrocities took place)?
I could go on and on with this ... but why bother. Pseudo-smart people (who lack the distance from their own beliefs to critique or opine on those beliefs in any meaningful way) will continue on with their drivel, we will continue to contest their claims, yada yada yada. As we move forward, religion will continue to recede (to your chagrin). And yeah, oh well ... too bad so sad! More gibberish in the scrap heap of history
