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Calling it into question...
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RE: Calling it into question...
(July 3, 2015 at 7:46 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote:
(July 3, 2015 at 7:35 am)popsthebuilder Wrote:


Pops, what you're describing is a narrative in your head that consists mostly of your feelings. While it might seem very real to you, there are very good reasons why science doesn't generally use that kind of anecdotal experience to form the basis of their claims. Your thoughts, feelings, and happenings during your experiences can all easily be given other explanations, and unlike yours, some of those explanations might actually have some evidence.

In fact, it seems to me that you've fallen to the same narrative that many theists accuse atheists of. It's very common for a theist, upon finding out someone is an atheist, to ask "Oh, what happened to you?" This is an indirect insult and implies something bad must have happened to you for you to be so damaged as to not believe there's a god.

Looking at your story, that's what caused you to run toward god, not away. In fact, many religious people seem to have some traumatic catalyst or shitty general world view that eventually drives them to faith; that narrative seems to apply to theists more-so than atheists, in my observation.
Didn't run to God. Was shown. Wasn't looking.

(July 3, 2015 at 9:27 am)Drich Wrote:
(July 2, 2015 at 3:00 am)Judi Lynn Wrote: I love calling things into question. I also enjoy being in the lot of those who stand up and ask for just ONE little bit of factual and non-biblical based evidence to support the bullshit argument that an entity who has never shown himself (especially in the last 2000 or so years) is real. This isn't about having blind faith or free will. This isn't about personal experiences. This isn't about his "plan". This is about logic, common sense and the ability to understand the difference between reality and imagination.
It is hard to accept that an entity, supposedly responsible for the creation of ALL of life....
who was the first to cause mass genocide,
Why?
In this day and age given the threats by ISIS alquida, and the like. Can you not ever see a reason to wipe your deep ceded enemy from all power and possible threat?
If God truly gave us the power to not choose Him, then the other extreme (deep dark evil) has the opportunity to ingrain itself into a person or even a whole society of people.

Quote:the one who commanded that slavery is okay,
Again as I have pointed out in the last slave thread, the definition of slavery has changed over the millennia. God's definition included paid servants and endentured servants as well as your definition, but with restrictions your definition does not include. But, the self righteous of this generation does not want to consider the truth of the matter only that God has violated their anti hot topic doctrines.
Quote:who is a baby killer,
:Roflol: Do you support abortion?

Quote:who tells you what you can't eat,
??? The only thing He says you can't eat is what you think it is a sin to eat... What are you talking about?

Quote:who said that you can't covet your neighbor's wife
Do you not understand the term covet? It means to long or lust after your (alive) neighbor's wife.

Quote:but who killed a man for refusing to impregnate his dead brother's wife,
Do you know what would have happened to the widow if the brother did not marry her and have a son with her? Remember she did not live in modern western society. Meaning no welfare, no rights after the husband died, no way to support her family. So she would have to turn to slavery, or she would have died, and her husband's lands/holding would be lost to her and any young children.
To marry your dead brother's wife was the way that ancient society supported widows and their children.

Quote:who is narcissistic in that he uses spending eternity in hell as an ultimatum if you don't obey or worship him,
So.. Let's say a Member of ISIS who hates all Westerners and anything not ISIS Muslim would die a terrible death IF you did not take Him/Them into your house. Now keep in mind once in your house they have full intention of killing you and your family, taking your house and possessions and turning them over to their want, will and cause. Now the question is, do you invite them in to your home?

God's Home is creation. ALL Of It. You and anyone who does not want to spend eternity in the service of God is 'ISIS'. Why should God force us (Christians) to spend eternity fighting the rest of you? Hell is the one place 'we' (Christians) are not.
Quote:Who commands that a wife obey her husband (even if he rapes her),
Finish the rest of the command. That a Husband should Love and respect her and should the situation arise Die for her as Christ loved respected and died for the church..

Quote:Refuses to rid the world of its starvation and hunger issues,
That's not true at all. God has provided a surplus of food in the west, and has commanded us (in the west/those with) to distribute it. This is not a God issue, this is a wicked servant issue. If it were a God issue then their would just flat out not be enough food.

Quote:will not regrow an amputated or missing body part without the aid or use of science and/or medicine.
What makes you think science and medicine means God is not at work? Are you so foolish to think that God can only work in the unexplainable? If so where did you get that idea?

Quote:And last but certainly not least, refuses to abolish cancer and other deadly diseases ....
Cancer and 'other deadly diseases' are or can be tools God uses to strengthen and grow our understanding and faith. Why would He remove such an effective tool?

Quote:Loves his people?
Indeed He does.. But as I pointed out not everyone can be considered "His people."

Also Why would you think just because you love someone deeply you would remove all obsticals in their lives? More often than not it is the threats, pains and dangers of this life that has Humanity/people grow.

Death is not the end you think it is. It is our birth into eternity, so why would God keep us from it? The only reason to fear and hate death is if you are not right with God. Then death becomes the ultimate end/punishment, and all who endorse paths that lead to early death as wicked.

You don't have a God problem. You have a basic life comprehension/philosphy problem.
That was great! Thank you for speaking the truth. Praise God.
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Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 2, 2015 at 3:00 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Wyrd of Gawd - July 2, 2015 at 3:16 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 2, 2015 at 3:22 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Napoléon - July 2, 2015 at 4:47 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 2, 2015 at 9:30 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Alex K - July 2, 2015 at 5:39 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Justtristo - July 2, 2015 at 11:16 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 2:41 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Cato - July 2, 2015 at 4:24 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Longhorn - July 2, 2015 at 4:50 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by popsthebuilder - July 2, 2015 at 7:54 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Ben Davis - July 2, 2015 at 9:03 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 2, 2015 at 10:30 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 2:45 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by ignoramus - July 2, 2015 at 8:24 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Longhorn - July 2, 2015 at 8:49 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 2, 2015 at 9:39 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Ben Davis - July 2, 2015 at 10:50 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by popsthebuilder - July 2, 2015 at 9:50 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 2, 2015 at 10:37 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 2:50 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 5, 2015 at 4:44 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Napoléon - July 2, 2015 at 10:40 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 2:48 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by pocaracas - July 2, 2015 at 10:13 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by robvalue - July 2, 2015 at 10:21 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 2, 2015 at 10:42 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Napoléon - July 2, 2015 at 10:44 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 2, 2015 at 11:06 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by cercatorius - July 3, 2015 at 12:17 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by popsthebuilder - July 2, 2015 at 11:37 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by pocaracas - July 2, 2015 at 12:42 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Minimalist - July 2, 2015 at 12:05 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Minimalist - July 2, 2015 at 12:06 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Longhorn - July 2, 2015 at 12:10 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 2, 2015 at 12:41 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by popsthebuilder - July 2, 2015 at 12:43 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 2, 2015 at 12:52 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Napoléon - July 2, 2015 at 12:53 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Thumpalumpacus - July 2, 2015 at 12:46 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by popsthebuilder - July 2, 2015 at 12:47 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by pocaracas - July 2, 2015 at 2:00 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Thumpalumpacus - July 2, 2015 at 2:26 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 2:57 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 3, 2015 at 6:36 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Redbeard The Pink - July 2, 2015 at 12:53 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by robvalue - July 2, 2015 at 12:57 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Minimalist - July 2, 2015 at 1:14 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Longhorn - July 2, 2015 at 1:18 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 2, 2015 at 1:32 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by popsthebuilder - July 2, 2015 at 2:01 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by pocaracas - July 3, 2015 at 6:35 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 2, 2015 at 2:06 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by popsthebuilder - July 2, 2015 at 2:27 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by cercatorius - July 3, 2015 at 12:21 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 2, 2015 at 2:47 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 2, 2015 at 2:49 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by popsthebuilder - July 2, 2015 at 6:50 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Redbeard The Pink - July 2, 2015 at 7:53 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 2, 2015 at 10:16 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 3:08 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 5, 2015 at 4:50 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 3:02 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by popsthebuilder - July 2, 2015 at 8:30 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Redbeard The Pink - July 2, 2015 at 9:52 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Wyrd of Gawd - July 3, 2015 at 4:18 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 3:04 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by ignoramus - July 2, 2015 at 9:13 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Silver - July 2, 2015 at 9:55 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 2, 2015 at 10:17 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by popsthebuilder - July 3, 2015 at 6:29 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 3, 2015 at 7:15 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by popsthebuilder - July 3, 2015 at 6:37 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 3, 2015 at 7:16 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 3:10 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by popsthebuilder - July 3, 2015 at 7:35 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Redbeard The Pink - July 3, 2015 at 7:46 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by pocaracas - July 3, 2015 at 11:20 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Drich - July 3, 2015 at 9:27 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 3, 2015 at 10:08 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Drich - July 3, 2015 at 11:10 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 3:17 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by LostLocke - July 3, 2015 at 10:12 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Drich - July 3, 2015 at 11:16 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by cercatorius - July 3, 2015 at 11:56 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 3:21 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by cercatorius - July 3, 2015 at 3:55 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 4:11 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 3, 2015 at 10:53 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Drich - July 3, 2015 at 12:40 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Redbeard The Pink - July 3, 2015 at 12:57 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by popsthebuilder - July 3, 2015 at 9:44 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Ben Davis - July 3, 2015 at 10:58 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 3:14 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by popsthebuilder - July 3, 2015 at 11:10 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by popsthebuilder - July 3, 2015 at 11:35 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by pocaracas - July 3, 2015 at 12:20 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by LostLocke - July 3, 2015 at 11:54 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Minimalist - July 3, 2015 at 12:04 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 3, 2015 at 12:20 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Minimalist - July 3, 2015 at 12:44 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by popsthebuilder - July 3, 2015 at 1:02 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by popsthebuilder - July 3, 2015 at 3:06 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 3:28 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by popsthebuilder - July 3, 2015 at 3:09 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 3:29 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 5, 2015 at 4:53 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by popsthebuilder - July 3, 2015 at 3:35 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 3:38 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Whateverist - July 3, 2015 at 3:38 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by popsthebuilder - July 3, 2015 at 3:39 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 4:06 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by popsthebuilder - July 3, 2015 at 4:09 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 4:19 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by popsthebuilder - July 3, 2015 at 4:20 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 4:22 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by popsthebuilder - July 4, 2015 at 9:48 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Redbeard The Pink - July 4, 2015 at 10:10 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 5, 2015 at 4:38 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by popsthebuilder - July 4, 2015 at 10:36 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Lek - July 4, 2015 at 3:37 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 5, 2015 at 4:35 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Ravenshire - July 5, 2015 at 12:26 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Nope - July 5, 2015 at 10:42 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Ravenshire - July 5, 2015 at 12:24 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by popsthebuilder - July 5, 2015 at 10:35 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 5, 2015 at 11:56 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Whateverist - July 5, 2015 at 12:15 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by popsthebuilder - July 5, 2015 at 12:21 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by popsthebuilder - July 5, 2015 at 12:27 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Whateverist - July 5, 2015 at 12:37 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 5, 2015 at 1:25 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Dragonetti - July 5, 2015 at 12:28 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by popsthebuilder - July 5, 2015 at 12:42 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by popsthebuilder - July 5, 2015 at 1:36 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Redbeard The Pink - July 6, 2015 at 9:17 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 6, 2015 at 9:16 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by loganonekenobi - July 6, 2015 at 9:35 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by popsthebuilder - July 6, 2015 at 10:10 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 6, 2015 at 10:14 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Redbeard The Pink - July 6, 2015 at 4:11 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by popsthebuilder - July 6, 2015 at 10:25 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 6, 2015 at 11:25 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by popsthebuilder - July 6, 2015 at 12:06 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 6, 2015 at 12:54 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by popsthebuilder - July 6, 2015 at 8:34 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 6, 2015 at 8:37 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by The Valkyrie - July 6, 2015 at 8:46 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by The Valkyrie - July 6, 2015 at 8:48 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by popsthebuilder - July 7, 2015 at 12:20 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Longhorn - July 7, 2015 at 12:39 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 8, 2015 at 4:51 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Redbeard The Pink - July 8, 2015 at 9:34 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Crossless1 - July 8, 2015 at 9:46 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by robvalue - July 8, 2015 at 9:48 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by pocaracas - July 8, 2015 at 9:53 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Minimalist - July 9, 2015 at 12:14 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by robvalue - July 8, 2015 at 9:55 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by pocaracas - July 8, 2015 at 10:19 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by robvalue - July 9, 2015 at 5:16 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by ignoramus - July 9, 2015 at 6:18 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 9, 2015 at 9:25 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by robvalue - July 9, 2015 at 9:45 am
RE: Calling it into question... - by Joods - July 9, 2015 at 12:08 pm
RE: Calling it into question... - by robvalue - July 9, 2015 at 12:41 pm

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