Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: August 3, 2025, 1:25 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Ethics Class Homework Assignments: Critiques, Thoughts... Thanks!
#3
RE: Ethics Class Homework Assignments: Critiques, Thoughts... Thanks!
(July 5, 2015 at 2:54 pm)Cato Wrote: I'll limit my initial response to the second assignment.

I don't think you've done enough to demonstrate that aborting a fetus diagnosed with Down's syndrome meets Kant's CI as universal law, primarily because the end in itself aspect of CI cuts against any you. Children with Down's syndrome certainly require additional care obligations along with the quality of life considerations you mentioned arguing the utilitarian point; however, I think this only gets you to a hypothetical imperative, which Kant wouldn't agree is sufficient to justify a universal law.

Despite immense interest in some of your commentary in the last two paragraphs, I question their inclusion in this assignment. The second portion of the assignment was to defend utilitarianism, your choice, against the objections (lack of ubiquitous satisfaction and limits on personal achievement). I think your defense would work better by using the abortion example to help concretize your argument. 

Quote:I would rather like to briefly consider an objection and a defense of consequentialism from a different angle.

If I'm the instructor, my immediate interpretation of this is "fuck your assignment, I'm going to talk about what I want". I find what you want to discuss much more interesting; however, I just caution that it may be too far afield given what was asked.
Sweet, thanks Cato. I can see where my professor might interpret it that way; maybe I'll phrase the line differently so that I don't come across as too obstinate... really, I'm not sure what else that I could add to the comments on utilitarianism with regards to abortion, and the two objections, that wouldn't just be restatements of the point I think I said decently well in brief (since I'm be limited to 2 1/2 pages, as I said it is almost impossible to consider anything in any truly serious way). The primary reason for the inclusion of the last two paragraphs, was (as you said) that I found them more interesting observations, and partly in response to some of the things he wrote on my last essay (for instance, he asked why it is that I should presume all definitions of objective good to be equally correct and likened it to the concept of a "chair").  

As for Kant, you might be right. He's one of the two (along with Mill) whose writings on morality I'm not acquainted with too much (the others we have covered thus far have been Plato, Aristotle, Epicurus, and Nietzsche). I did do a little research, to see how Kantians view abortion, and from their arguments and the words of Kant it seems there is some disagreement over his ideas of "rational being" and "humanity," and how this fits into our obligations to the unborn. The categorical imperative, at least as I would imagine it, would be something like, "All fetuses that suffer from a disorder or a defect that is sure to substantially lower their future quality of life should be aborted," granting that an unborn child doesn't meet his definition of humanity (rational, can set ends for itself) and that it would even be cruel to not abort the fetus (cruelty not even being permitted towards animals, as it debases human character and increases the likelihood of acting cruelly towards other humans). But I'm sure there are Kantians who would disagree with that reading of Kant, and probably others who would seek to justify abortion in certain instances for other reasons.

Anyway, I really appreciate the input.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
Reply



Messages In This Thread
RE: Ethics Class Homework Assignments: Critiques, Thoughts... Thanks! - by Mudhammam - July 5, 2015 at 3:55 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Atheism and Ethics Lucian 262 29489 August 4, 2024 at 9:51 am
Last Post: Disagreeable
  Ethics of Neutrality John 6IX Breezy 16 3180 November 20, 2023 at 8:40 am
Last Post: Gawdzilla Sama
  Thoughts on Courtly love (aka platonic love) Macoleco 16 2805 September 11, 2022 at 2:04 pm
Last Post: Jehanne
  Ethics of Fashion John 6IX Breezy 60 8413 August 9, 2022 at 3:11 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  [Serious] Ethics Disagreeable 44 7366 March 23, 2022 at 7:09 pm
Last Post: deepend
  Thoughts of Reason Silver 22 2883 October 25, 2020 at 6:26 pm
Last Post: Sal
  Machine Intelligence and Human Ethics BrianSoddingBoru4 24 3878 May 28, 2019 at 1:23 pm
Last Post: Anomalocaris
  What is the point of multiple types of ethics? Macoleco 12 2063 October 2, 2018 at 12:35 pm
Last Post: robvalue
Lightbulb Some thoughts I felt compelled to share with anyone willing to listen, entheogen 22 4551 September 17, 2018 at 1:38 pm
Last Post: entheogen
  How our thoughts are formed? givepeaceachance 29 6628 May 24, 2018 at 5:27 am
Last Post: ignoramus



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)