nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang?

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Anyway, using your own logic of something coming from nothing, how logically do you come to the conclusion that an even more complex being than the universe i.e. God came out of nothing? And just saying "because god always existed" dosen't count, if your asking for a scientific response for your question, I'd expect the same rules to apply to your answer to my question.

The common if something came out of nothing who created God. You dont attempt to answer how something finite was created out of nothing, you just argue that God had to have a cause (which is a big assumption) and you still dont have any answer besides, 'If God did it, then the universe can do it.' Which is comparing apples and oranges...

Science dosen't claim to have all the answers, you and the followers of your religion do, so I'd suggest the burden of providing any sort of proof of anything in relation to the beginning of the universe lays with you.

The more I learn, the more I know I will never know a lot of things. Just because some unedumacted preachers say they have all the answers, doesnt mean that all [i] religous [i] people have the answers . The Bible doesnt even explain why there is evil in this universe!

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I've read bits. Here's a personal favourite: 'If a slave owner takes a stick and beats his slave... and the slave dies on the spot, the owner is to be punished. But if the slave does not die for a day or two, the master is not to be punished. The loss of his property is punishment enough.' (Exodus 21:21)

Could you imagine if God gave the UN charter of rights?
God only goes as fast as the people can

21"You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'Do not murder,[a] and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.' 22But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother[b]will be subject to judgment.

No, you believe there was "someone" who we have no real evidence for. I believe the universe has always existed in some state, and since we can observe that the universe exists, and all our observations point to it existing in some sort of state, I have the evidence to back up my assertion. Your move. Evidence that your God exists / started the universe? (and by evidence, I don't necessarily mean "scientific evidence")

How so?
Everything that has a begining has had a cause
The universe had a begining
Thus, it had a cause
Since it had a cause something had to give it a cause for its existence

You can call that 'something' aliens, God or some sought of created being but the universe had to have a cause, since it as a begining...

For heavens sake don't read it literally! Read it in the context of it's time! Except the good bits of course! Read them literally! And the bits the prove gods existence! Read them literally as well!!!

No wonder why most atheists think the Bible is ridiculous, they dont understand theology or exegesis!

Yeah great lessons for life!

They were, if you lived thousands of years ago

(Quoted from evilbible.com)

Sounds as credible as Answersingenesis! How about using peer reviewed journals? or credible sites?

Is is possible the Christian god exists? Yes. Is it PROBABLE? No.

How do you get to your conclusion?

What exactly are you unconvinced by? If I don't know that, how can I explain it in a more convincing way for you?

Question, have they been able to create RNA in a lab yet?

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That doesn't mean it couldn't have happened by itself.

True, or a green goblin created life. I will wait for empirical evidence before I say how this world absolutely came into existence.

Give science time, 50 years ago IVF would have seemed impossible, 100 years ago stopping and reversing the effects of many natural disease's would have seemed impossible. Seeing as your idea of god had an eternity to come up with what he did, I'd say humans have done comparatively well when taking into account the time scales.

I disagree. in the 1950s everyone thought we would be travelling in space and have flying cars in the year 2000. I love this argument, 'Just you wait Mr, we will have time machines and create life artifically! Just you wait.' Ok I will wait, in the meantime, life hasnt been replicated, therefore making your hypothesis weak, since there is no empirical evidence...

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Seems you guys have all the "answers" or at least you's think you's do. A lot of you's seem to be quite arrogant...

I used to think the same, and then I evolved