Choo-Choo, all aboard the strawman and non-sequitor post train!
There's so many things wrong with this I can barely grasp it. First off, "atheism" isn't something that flourishes. Even so, it hasn't been "flourishing" over the past 200 to 300 years. Atheism has always been around.
Not only do you start off with something like this, you then take a giant leap from "Atheism" to "Secular Countries." You can't just declare 2 things and then compare them with something else. Secular countries have existed, and will always exist, regardless of people who believe in religion or not. People rejecting the claims of god doesn't always have it so that a nation truly becomes secular based off of that one reason. There are many reasons to be apart from religion, while still having religion in the country.
Europe's economy and population is doing just fine. Where are you getting this from?
Well, atheism isn't an "idea" as much as "not placing my hand in fire" is an idea. That's not what atheism is. Atheism is not "you are a product of nothing" and by "mere chance."
Atheism is a response to the theist claim that gods exist, period. It has nothing to do with the idea of how we got here. Even if you're talking from a scientific standpoint, you're still wrong. The universe did not come from "nothing" and we are not a product of "nothing." The universe has always existed and we are a part of it. Are you nothing? No, so how are you a "product of nothing?"
The universe didn't get here by "mere chance" either, it was simply here. There's nothing "chancy" about it.
Either way, this has nothing to do with Atheism. Either way, it's not an "idea" in either sense.
No, you won't.
Or beating you up and killing you if you're gay. Or throwing you in prison if you say anything against them. Or being hung by rope if you're black. Or being kicked out of the country because you're foreign. And not having equal rights for women...
Generally, yes, but it does happen, more than your "generally" would like you to believe.
So, how is "atheism" a short lived idea? Your title was "Atheism, short lived idea" yet your concluding point is that you'd prefer to live in a Christian nation. Okay, even if you do live in a Christian nation, people will still be atheist against the religion.
If such a thing happened, you'd probably repeat history again anyway. People who are sick of the nation's crap will rebel.
Of course, you only listed Christian nation, and Islamic nations. There are plenty of other religions out there.
The only reason why you made the choice "Christian nation" is because you honestly believe that any nation that's under law of religion, acts similar to countries which currently do not uphold this practice. America is not a "Christian nation," for example, and if it truly was, it would be a MUCH different place.
(October 9, 2010 at 3:16 am)solja247 Wrote: For the past 200-300 years or so Atheism has flourished in developed countries, with atheism, has led to being secular countires, which have made us humans take leaps and bounds in all fields of science. However, is that about to end?
There's so many things wrong with this I can barely grasp it. First off, "atheism" isn't something that flourishes. Even so, it hasn't been "flourishing" over the past 200 to 300 years. Atheism has always been around.
Not only do you start off with something like this, you then take a giant leap from "Atheism" to "Secular Countries." You can't just declare 2 things and then compare them with something else. Secular countries have existed, and will always exist, regardless of people who believe in religion or not. People rejecting the claims of god doesn't always have it so that a nation truly becomes secular based off of that one reason. There are many reasons to be apart from religion, while still having religion in the country.
Quote:Europe's population is dwindilling, so to keep the economies afloat they get immigrants from developing countries. The major problem is that most immigrants, to Europe are either Muslims or Christians.
Europe's economy and population is doing just fine. Where are you getting this from?
Quote:Whether the idea of God is a dellusion or not, Atheism isnt a very nice idea (You are a product of nothing and mere chance) most people will not adopt it
Well, atheism isn't an "idea" as much as "not placing my hand in fire" is an idea. That's not what atheism is. Atheism is not "you are a product of nothing" and by "mere chance."
Atheism is a response to the theist claim that gods exist, period. It has nothing to do with the idea of how we got here. Even if you're talking from a scientific standpoint, you're still wrong. The universe did not come from "nothing" and we are not a product of "nothing." The universe has always existed and we are a part of it. Are you nothing? No, so how are you a "product of nothing?"
The universe didn't get here by "mere chance" either, it was simply here. There's nothing "chancy" about it.
Either way, this has nothing to do with Atheism. Either way, it's not an "idea" in either sense.
Quote:, espically if they are from a developing country. Since most people will not adopt it and immigrants come from thrid world coutries who are either Muslims and Christians, who keep their faith. Are we going to see the slow and steady decay of Atheism?
I believe so.
No, you won't.
Quote:I guess the question is, would you prefer to live in a majority Christian or Islamic country?
The problem with Muslims is they can be fired up and cry, 'Jihad' Causing civilised countires into barbaric (Afghanistan) nations. Im not saying all Muslims are like this. However, the worst you will get with a Christian nation is them knocking on your door and having billboards telling you not to have an abortion.
Or beating you up and killing you if you're gay. Or throwing you in prison if you say anything against them. Or being hung by rope if you're black. Or being kicked out of the country because you're foreign. And not having equal rights for women...
Quote:Generally, in the 21st century you dont see Christians killing other people, because they believe contrary...
Generally, yes, but it does happen, more than your "generally" would like you to believe.
Quote:So I personally would prefer to live in a Christian nation, if I was an atheist...
So, how is "atheism" a short lived idea? Your title was "Atheism, short lived idea" yet your concluding point is that you'd prefer to live in a Christian nation. Okay, even if you do live in a Christian nation, people will still be atheist against the religion.
If such a thing happened, you'd probably repeat history again anyway. People who are sick of the nation's crap will rebel.
Of course, you only listed Christian nation, and Islamic nations. There are plenty of other religions out there.
The only reason why you made the choice "Christian nation" is because you honestly believe that any nation that's under law of religion, acts similar to countries which currently do not uphold this practice. America is not a "Christian nation," for example, and if it truly was, it would be a MUCH different place.
I like the way you think!
...But please stop thinking, it's not you.
...But please stop thinking, it's not you.