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Proving The Resurrection By the Minimal Facts Approach
RE: Proving The Resurrection By the Minimal Facts Approach
(July 7, 2015 at 5:22 pm)IATIA Wrote:
(July 7, 2015 at 5:12 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: No, you have enough information. What you lack is the guts to make the decision to accept Jesus.
IF jesus did exist and was crucified and rose.  Who is to say that he was not just in a coma?

There is no proof that ANYONE has ever risen from the dead.  That would require two pieces of information.  Proof they were dead in the first place and proof they were now alive.  It has NEVER been done.  You can rant and rave and hold your breath.  You can provide links to all kinds of bullshit, but there is no proof that jesus was dead and there is no proof that he rose from the dead.  The evidence that he even existed is weak at best.


Ah, the Swoon Theory.

If a half-dead Jesus, beaten and bloody from head to toe, managed to stagger back to where the apostles were in hiding, do you think that upon seeing him in this condition the Apostles would have called Him "Lord"? Or would they have called him a doctor?

Here are nine pieces of evidence that refute the swoon theory:

  1. Jesus could not have survived crucifixion. Roman procedures were very careful to eliminate that possibility. Roman law even laid the death penalty on any soldier who let a capital prisoner escape in any way, including bungling a crucifixion. It was never done.
  2. The fact that the Roman soldier did not break Jesus' legs, as he did to the other two crucified criminals (Jn 19:31-33), means that the soldier was sure Jesus was dead. Breaking the legs hastened the death so that the corpse could be taken down before the sabbath (v. 31).
  3. John, an eyewitness, certified that he saw blood and water come from Jesus' pierced heart (Jn 19:34-35). This shows that Jesus' lungs had collapsed and he had died of asphyxiation. Any medical expert can vouch for this.
  4. The body was totally encased in winding sheets and entombed (Jn 19:38-42).
  5. The post-resurrection appearances convinced the disciples, even "doubting Thomas," that Jesus was gloriously alive (Jn 20:19-29). It is psychologically impossible for the disciples to have been so transformed and confident if Jesus had merely struggled out of a swoon, badly in need of a doctor. A half-dead, staggering sick man who has just had a narrow escape is not worshiped fearlessly as divine lord and conquerer of death.
  6. How were the Roman guards at the tomb overpowered by a swooning corpse? Or by unarmed disciples? And if the disciples did it, they knowingly lied when they wrote the Gospels, and we are into the conspiracy theory, which we will refute shortly.
  7. How could a swooning half-dead man have moved the great stone at the door of the tomb? Who moved the stone if not an angel? No one has ever answered that question. Neither the Jews nor the Romans would move it, for it was in both their interests to keep the tomb sealed: the Jews had the stone put there in the first place, and the Roman guards would be killed if they let the body "escape." The story the Jewish authorities spread, that the guards fell asleep and the disciples stole the body (Mt 28:11-15), is unbelievable. Roman guards would not fall asleep on a job like that; if they did, they would lose their lives. And even if they did fall asleep, the crowd and the effort and the noise it would have taken to move an enormous boulder would have wakened them. Furthermore, we are again into the conspiracy theory, with all its unanswerable difficulties (we'll deal with this theory in a couple days.)
  8. If Jesus awoke from a swoon, where did he go? Think this through: you have a living body to deal with now, not a dead one. Why did it disappear? There is absolutely no data, not even any false, fantastic, imagined data, about Jesus' life after his crucifixion, in any sources, friend or foe, at any time, early or late. A man like that, with a past like that, would have left traces.
  9. Most simply, the swoon theory necessarily turns into the conspiracy theory or the hallucination theory, for the disciples testified that Jesus did not swoon but really died and really rose.
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RE: Proving The Resurrection By the Minimal Facts Approach - by Randy Carson - July 7, 2015 at 6:32 pm

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