[quote='solja247' pid='98505' dateline='1286715617']
[quote]Then facts are never a fact. The North Pole is found in the North is not a fact, because one day what we call the North Pole may become the South Pole...
I called it a present fact, not an absolute fact, which are two different things...[/quote]
Obviously most facts are contingent upon the definition. You can't say that it isn't an absolute fact that a Shetland Pony is a pony because we might one day call ponies 'tigers'. An assumption is a statement, or premise, which one takes to be true from which a conclusion can be drawn. A fact is a piece of evidence from which a conclusion can be drawn.
[quote]That is why there had to be an uncaused cause, which I call God...[/quote]
Why couldn't the uncaused cause be the universe?
[quote]Thoughts exist in an immaterial realm, some being in another dimension could possibly intercept them? but lets not speculate. This thread isnt about that anyways...[/quote]
Well, it is, because you say not to speculate about uncaused universes, then invoke an even more speculative explanation!
[quote]Then facts are never a fact. The North Pole is found in the North is not a fact, because one day what we call the North Pole may become the South Pole...
I called it a present fact, not an absolute fact, which are two different things...[/quote]
Obviously most facts are contingent upon the definition. You can't say that it isn't an absolute fact that a Shetland Pony is a pony because we might one day call ponies 'tigers'. An assumption is a statement, or premise, which one takes to be true from which a conclusion can be drawn. A fact is a piece of evidence from which a conclusion can be drawn.
[quote]That is why there had to be an uncaused cause, which I call God...[/quote]
Why couldn't the uncaused cause be the universe?
[quote]Thoughts exist in an immaterial realm, some being in another dimension could possibly intercept them? but lets not speculate. This thread isnt about that anyways...[/quote]
Well, it is, because you say not to speculate about uncaused universes, then invoke an even more speculative explanation!
'We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart.' H.L. Mencken
'False religion' is the ultimate tautology.
'It is just like man's vanity and impertinence to call an animal dumb because it is dumb to his dull perceptions.' Mark Twain
'I care not much for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.' Abraham Lincoln
'False religion' is the ultimate tautology.
'It is just like man's vanity and impertinence to call an animal dumb because it is dumb to his dull perceptions.' Mark Twain
'I care not much for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.' Abraham Lincoln
