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Your views on MARRIAGE
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RE: Your views on MARRIAGE
(July 8, 2015 at 9:25 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I watched a True Life episode a while back ago where a group of 4 gay guys were in a 4 way relationship, and where one girl was in a relationship with 2 guys at once (they knew about it and were ok with it). These were referred to on the show as a polyamorous relationships, though I guess we'd call it polygamy if they were to actually get legally married that way.  

So the question is this:

Whether the unions be between 1 men and multiple women, 1 women and multiple men, multiple men, or multiple women, should unions between more than 2 people be recognized by the government as marriage?

Why or why not?

Thanks!

I'm usually a fairly open minded individual, but I take a very dim view on polygamy and "open relationships", even "hook ups" and "one night stands" to a lesser extent. I'd like to think my objections are logically sound and with good reason behind them but I'll let others be the judge of that.

1) Polygamy reduces genetic diversity: If we look at the Polygamous Mormons, or even today the Modern Fundalmentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints we see a very disturbing trend; boys are being kicked out of the family home, exposed or abandoned shortly after birth because of the competition for wives. In the same way the Chinese don't want female children because of earning potential with the one child rule, Fundamentalist Mormons do not want boys, they endanger the souls of all other men if there is not enough women to go around (having multiple wives is a requirement for a good afterlife).

In any culture that has allowed polygamy one way (the Jews were not immune to this) we see serious consequences for one or both genders. It also narrows the genepool considerably as a smaller percentile of the population is reproducing.

2) STDS: The more people you sleep with, the more chances bacteria and other assorted parasites have to interact with one another. Rather like how Hospitals are hotbeds for the mutation and formation of new dangerous diseases it's usually sluts who become the breeding labs for new mutated STDs. The more it's passed around, the more of a risk of such a mutation or transmission of it.

4) Economics: As pointed out above polygamous societies traditionally have struggled to some degree with unsustainable economies. The Mormons are again the prime example of this, there's many cases of men actually being murdered so that their widows could become marriage material and shared out amongst the others.

It also tends to lead to the demeanment of one sex, which is fairly prominent in Islamic societies. A man is clearly the dominant partner having the right to take controll of multiple womens affairs, just as women have control over men in parts of Nepal where it is women who can take multiple husbands. In their respective cultures, the "dominant" sex reserves many rights and legal privileges that the other does not have.

5) Culture: ...I can't believe I'm making an appeal to tradition but oh well.

We have evidence of heterosexual marriage in the west for aeons, we also have reference of same sex marriages in Ancient Greece, what we don't have unlike Asia is polygamy. Look at all the old helenistic works like Medea, it was pretty clear men could kick their wives out whenever they liked, or take as many concubines as they could afford. What they couldn't do however was take two wives.

Does it make sense? Not especially, but that was sacrosanct then as it is for most today. Perhaps it is silly, the same way being gay was seen as icky fifty years ago. For now most appear to feel that is a bridge too far as it contradicts the idea of Romance as between two people (in the past of course lust being something one could freely exercise elsewhere outside of it).

The last one is more shakey, but I do think there are serious economic concerns to have against polygamy. Supposing it happened, great, now millionares can keep Solomonesque harems of hundreds of Russian Supermodels. Where does that leave the average man or woman? I see that breeding much resentment.
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Your views on MARRIAGE - by Catholic_Lady - July 8, 2015 at 9:25 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by The Valkyrie - July 8, 2015 at 9:28 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Minimalist - July 8, 2015 at 9:41 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Catholic_Lady - July 8, 2015 at 9:43 pm
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RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Pyrrho - July 9, 2015 at 6:34 pm
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RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Minimalist - July 8, 2015 at 9:54 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Catholic_Lady - July 8, 2015 at 10:54 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Jenny A - July 8, 2015 at 9:57 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Rev. Rye - July 8, 2015 at 10:19 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Jenny A - July 8, 2015 at 10:26 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Dystopia - July 9, 2015 at 3:33 am
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RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Catholic_Lady - July 8, 2015 at 11:13 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by ignoramus - July 8, 2015 at 11:15 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Catholic_Lady - July 8, 2015 at 11:28 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by The Valkyrie - July 8, 2015 at 11:32 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Silver - July 8, 2015 at 11:32 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Catholic_Lady - July 8, 2015 at 11:38 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Minimalist - July 8, 2015 at 11:33 pm
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RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Catholic_Lady - July 9, 2015 at 12:13 am
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RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Catholic_Lady - July 9, 2015 at 1:43 am
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RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Catholic_Lady - July 9, 2015 at 12:51 am
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RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Catholic_Lady - July 11, 2015 at 12:22 pm
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RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Whateverist - July 11, 2015 at 2:28 pm
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RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Pyrrho - July 12, 2015 at 12:29 pm
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