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Proving The Resurrection By the Minimal Facts Approach
RE: Proving The Resurrection By the Minimal Facts Approach
(July 9, 2015 at 7:33 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: No, they don't, but that doesn't mean that they cannot
It's a statistical syllogism. Most cats don't speak human language. Spot is a cat. Therefore, it is likely Spot cannot speak human language. People don't get to merely proclaim there are a few cats that speak "supernaturally" to dodge this.
Quote:...particularly if the type of God described in the Christian scriptures exists.
No, you haven't shown this.
Quote:If so, there is simply no reason to reject the possibility of a miracle
We are talking about likelihood not mere possibility, moron.
Quote:as the explanation of a well-attested event for which no plausible natural explanation exists.
The plausibility of the explanation is low for straightforward reasons (ex.facts about biology.) I don't know how I can make that any clearer.

As I've said about your whole approach:
(July 9, 2015 at 1:47 pm)Pizza Wrote: Has Randy actually given a clear explanation of the "five facts?" All I'm hearing is "god did it" but not "this is how god did it." I'm also confused as to what he's trying to explain. Is it the "five facts" or is it the resurrection? First he says he's trying to support the resurrection claim with the "five facts" then he's trying support the "five facts" with the resurrection claim. When it is pointed out that resurrection contradicts known facts about biology, he claims "God caused a resurrection to happen." What a question begging mess. I still don't know why deists and other non-Christian theists are to take this seriously, let alone atheists and agnostics. Isn't the whole point of proving the resurrection happened is to prove the Christian god exists?


Quote:To simply deny Jesus' resurrection, no matter how strong the evidence, is to be biased against the possibility that this could be the one case for which we have been looking to prove the supernatural and God exist.
Oh, that's rich coming from the guy starting with the premise "Christian gawd exists, Jesus resurrected." If you're trying to convert the irreligious you're doing a shit job of it.
Quote:Sure. People die for a belief all the time.

How often do people die willingly for something that they know is a lie? Not "believe", KNOW to be false.
"Christian beliefs are true and have good reasons for them, therefor Christian beliefs count as knowledge." Jerkoff
It is very important not to mistake hemlock for parsley, but to believe or not believe in God is not important at all. - Denis Diderot

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RE: Proving The Resurrection By the Minimal Facts Approach - by Pizza - July 9, 2015 at 10:02 pm

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