RE: Proving The Resurrection By the Minimal Facts Approach
July 10, 2015 at 5:38 pm
(This post was last modified: July 10, 2015 at 5:59 pm by Randy Carson.)
(July 10, 2015 at 9:40 am)Neimenovic Wrote:(July 10, 2015 at 9:12 am)Randy Carson Wrote: This has been explained MULTIPLE times.
<once more with feeling>
God is not struggling to reveal himself to you nor am I struggling to show you what evidence we do have. You're struggling to accept it. That's all.
If God were to make a more overt gesture of His existence, He would interfere with our free will.
It's just that simple.
Uh huh.
Like he had no problem doing before the invention of cameras. Straight up smiting people, too.
Just another weak excuse. The fact that you need to make it makes your god even less plausible.
(July 10, 2015 at 10:13 am)Jenny A Wrote:(July 10, 2015 at 9:12 am)Randy Carson Wrote: This has been explained MULTIPLE times.
<once more with feeling>
God is not struggling to reveal himself to you nor am I struggling to show you what evidence we do have. You're struggling to accept it. That's all.
If God were to make a more overt gesture of His existence, He would interfere with our free will.
It's just that simple.
Sorry, but that's the snake rattle of the charlatan. It's the fall back to most unprovable supernatural phenomenon--if you don't want it or won't accept it, it won't appear for you. Every medium who claims to speak to the dead, or read your mind does it. Skeptic and camera shy claims, are nothing more than hot air.
Before you get hot under the collar, I'm not suggesting you are lying about your beliefs, only that the excuse you offer is used by people who do, because it's the excuse of very last resort when trying to prove the unprovable.
Guys, while many less attentive (or more hostile) members of the forum simplistically dismiss me because they claim I'm only here to preach my own gospel. However, I'm actually more interested in finding and presenting good answers to your questions.
Now, you will both want to respond to my question below, but you seem to be raising the same objection. I'm happy to attempt an answer but I want to be sure that I understand exactly what the objection is.
Are you asking: Why doesn't God reveal himself dramatically today like he did in the Old Testament?
If not, please express the issue in your own words.
This is NOT my answer, but if Abraham, Moses, the prophets and others had a personal encounter with God that managed to get written up in the various books which we know collectively as the Bible, why do you count those as somehow "legitimate" whereas the Near Death Experiences or other supernatural occurences in the lives of modern believers are discounted?
What's the difference?