(July 10, 2015 at 9:57 pm)whateverist Wrote:(July 10, 2015 at 7:36 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I don't think either of those 2 things is moral.
Personally, I think porn is worse than masturbation (this is just my opinion, since the Church doesn't officially "rank" them). I can see how masturbation can be an easy thing to fall into especially during the teenage years when hormones are raging, and I tend to think culpability is greatly lessened due to having such strong natural urges at an age where self control is more difficult. I think porn, on the other hand, is more immoral for a few other reasons, especially because it involves another person.
No, I do not watch porn. This isn't even a temptation for me since I don't like it at all anyway.
I haven't done "the other thing" in a fairly long time, but would be lying if I said I never have. But I am happily married so I imagine it must be easier for me to avoid it now.
(For the record, Islam is also vehemently against both those things)
In a monogamous, life-time intending relationship you owe it to your partner to be competent at sex. If you don't even take care to learn what works for you, what can you possibly bring to the relationship? If you permit yourself to enjoy sex for its own sake while assiduously timing it to avoid procreation, why not permit yourself the 'practice' which could improve love making with your spouse.
Can't we just practice better love making by making love? Lol. Do we have to practice it by masturbating alone?
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