My reply to Parkers Tan
(July 11, 2015 at 2:58 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote:(July 11, 2015 at 8:02 am)excitedpenguin Wrote: I don't have to. You can't support your statement, whereas I can, fairly easily. Your on an atheist forum after all, not an altruistic one.
Actually, I can support it, by pointing out the wars over time that were driven by resource competition as opposed to those caused by religious schism or enmity. I don't have the time to do that in detail right now, and won't until probably tomorrow afternoon, but I will get to it.
In the meantime, it should be pointed out that atheism and altruism aren't antithetical, and to argue otherwise is an excluded-middle fallacy.
No, you still can't and couldn't. Resource competition is not necessarily driven by greed. Sometimes it's unavoidable, whereas religious competition is not.
And while we're at it, I don't think you can support this statement either, unless you're a certified neuroscientist:
Parkers Tan Wrote:What's scary is that greed lies deeper in the human psyche than religion. You can eliminate religion altogether, and you will still have wars over resources, land, financial systems, market strategies, productive zones, slave labor, food supply, and so on -- and all of those devolve into greed when you really boil it down.
I agree that atheism and altruism are not antithetical. I never meant to say such a thing. I only meant that we are here mainly to discuss about the impact of religion on the world, not greed, and that is why I might be more likely to be able to support my side of the argument than you yours. I think you got what I meant but decided to play the stupid card anyway. If I will continue to get the impression that, in fact, you are doing so, I will stop replying to you alltogether.