(July 11, 2015 at 3:02 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote:(July 11, 2015 at 9:45 am)IATIA Wrote: IMHO, religion is just the most common excuse, not reason, for the greatest catastrophes. Without religion, 9/11 would still have happened, the Inquisition would still have happened, the Crusades would still have happened and so on. Bad people are just bad, without rhyme or reason. The biggest problem with religion is the effect of my personal liberties.
I agree that it is often a fig leaf, but I do think that it fully instigated several wars. I don't think you should have included the Crusades in your list, myself, and the Inquisition's inclusion seems questionable as well. Both of those instances had deep religious motivations, although the Inquisition also had greed as a factor (stemming from property seizure).
I disagree somewhat. The Crusades were after land. Although religion was very much a part of it, without any religion, they may well have still gone after the land. The Inquisition was mainly about control. IMHO.
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God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers
Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders
Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy