RE: Islam is the real deal
July 13, 2015 at 1:01 pm
(This post was last modified: July 13, 2015 at 2:35 pm by huss88ein.)
(July 13, 2015 at 7:34 am)robvalue Wrote: Indeed.Well among the others I think you are the most rational one and built your beliefs on a solid foundation.
He may well be an otherwise intelligent and rational person, but this is just preaching and not a discussion.
We reject your religion for the same reasons you reject all the others. Fantastical claims with woefully little evidence to back them up. Retrofitting an ancient document to scientific findings doesn't prove anything. If you want to see something in the text badly enough, you'll see it.
And anyway, why would you worship an immoral monster like Allah who wants to torture people simply for refusing to submit to him?
Saying that I am preaching well I don't even know however preaching from my point of view would be like saying
"No you're wrong you will all go to hell for your beliefs. ......." well I never said that I don't even believe that.
Putting that aside you're giving another concept and a very amazing question which I asked myself several times before being convinced in islam snd that question is why god is so cruel or in other words why is god sadistic.
I found the answer to that by searching in the word mithaque which means promise as that when god created us he took sn owth from all humans to worship him and then we forgot that promise for the sake of this test we are living.
You csn argue an tell me that I dont remember that is where the profits come.
Ok as for why did he created us if he doesn't want us to suffer well the answer is that our creation is a better creation and god wanted to make a better creation that simple.
And we are the ones who wanted to become human in the first place god gave us a choice and we will all remember that in the afterlife.
If you tell me at this point that you don't believe in god in the first place I'll tell that wasnt your question your question was why do I BELIEVE IN CRUEL GOD
(July 13, 2015 at 8:04 am)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote: I mean, I demonstrated that the Quran verses 25:53 and 33:4 are factually incorrect and yet I've seen no attempt at a refutation. Not even the old metaphor excuse. What more evidence does this person need that the Quran is man made? It's not even like I'm going down the clichéd route of citing where the Quran says that the sun sets in a pool of muddy water. The Quran says fresh and salt water don't mix and say that humans can only have one heart within their body both of which are obviously wrong! People are born with more than one heart and fresh and salt water do mix!Imam Fakhr-ud-Deen Ar-Razi states,
When Zul-Qarnain reached the furthest west and no populated land was left, he found the sun as if it sets in a dark spring, but it is not in reality. The same when sea traveler sees the sun as if it sets in the sea if he cannot see the shore while in reality it sets behind the sea. (Ar-Razi, At-Tafsir-ul-Kabir, Volume 21, page 166)
As for estuarine thats the barrier quran has mentioned it is pount for me not against me. A known fact between rivers and seas
Here is your answer