Quote:Regardless, in Pliny, we have indisputable proof of the presence of the followers of Jesus from a hostile witness.
Somebody tell Shit-fer-brains that Pliny never heard of anyone named jesus. Moreover, what he does say is that
Quote:Those who denied that they were or had been Christians, when they invoked the gods in words dictated by me, offered prayer with incense and wine to your image, which I had ordered to be brought for this purpose together with statues of the gods, and moreover cursed Christ--none of which those who are really Christians, it is said, can be forced to do--these I thought should be discharged. Others named by the informer declared that they were Christians, but then denied it, asserting that they had been but had ceased to be, some three years before, others many years, some as much as twenty-five years. They all worshiped your image and the statues of the gods, and cursed Christ.
The bolded part is certainly not the bullshit story that the church put out.
