RE: Why can't Christians say that parts of the Old Testament don't apply??..
October 13, 2010 at 11:45 pm
(This post was last modified: October 14, 2010 at 12:33 am by Godscreated.)
(October 12, 2010 at 2:20 pm)dave4shmups Wrote:(October 11, 2010 at 11:41 pm)Godschild Wrote: The Father, Christ and Holy Spirit were from the begining ie. Genesis. As for stoneing someone for working on the Sabbath that is against the laws of our country that was founded on religious freedom. All the OT law does not apply to christianity. Jesus said, it was said to hate your enemies, I say to love your enemies and even supply their needs. When the priest condemned the disciples for picking grain to eat on the Sabbath Jesus said do you not pull an ox from the ditch on the Sabbath, then He told them He was the Lord of the Sabbath and that the Sabbath was made for man not man for the Sabbath. Jesus was saying to the priest that I have not judged them so why should you. Many different laws in the OT were meant for different reasons and some of those do not apply to todays world.
First of all, the rest of you should not rip on this guy, because that's essentially (without the harsh language) the way I was treated, more times then not, when I was a Christian.
@Godschild-why were those regulations there to begin with? I mean, seriously, why did people have to be stoned to death just for violating the Sabbath. I don't expect you do have all the answers, I don't.
Thank you for your concern it's good to know some care. As for these guys they can not move me away from what I know, I'm sorry that they do not understand. The more they rip my beliefs the more they forge a stronger christian, God does use those who refuse to believe to help His people. If any of you doubt this statement you should check me out by reading what the scriptures of the NT say about this matter. Not every one was stoned to death for violating the Sabbath law when the city of Jericho was destroyed the Israelites marched for seven straight days, this means one of those days would be a Sabbath day. Now if the Sabbath law was upheld there would be no nation of Israel.
(October 12, 2010 at 11:07 am)Thor Wrote: I love it when I point out absurd laws in the Bible and Christians want to tell me that I am talking about "Mosaic Law" and that doesn't apply any more.
I then challenge them to show me where in the book it says that these laws "don't apply any more".
I also ask, "Well, if these laws don't apply any more, then why are they still in the book?" (After all, when we repeal laws they are removed from the law books!)
I have yet to receive a reasonable answer to either question.
The Bible is for instruction, you do not erase things just because they are no longer used. I have a question for you Thor, if the laws are removed from the law books then how is it we know of them?
Thor ask a question about OT law and let,s see if we can find an answer. The answer we find may not be to your liking, that does not make it any less true.
(October 12, 2010 at 5:53 am)Loki_999 Wrote:(October 11, 2010 at 11:41 pm)Godschild Wrote: The Father, Christ and Holy Spirit were from the begining ie. Genesis.
I hate to ask as i've had this discussion before, but please regurgitate the appropriate passages with your interpretation of it.
(October 11, 2010 at 11:41 pm)Godschild Wrote: All the OT law does not apply to christianity.That my dear friend is called cherry picking. Choose which laws apply and make up your own religion. It shouldn't be called Christianity, it should be called Roll Your Own Morality.
It,s not cherry picking some of the OT laws do not apply to christianity as a matter of fact they were given to show the need of Christ as savior. Adam and Eve could not keep the only law given them and no one has ever keep all the 10 commandments, we're a pretty sorry lot.
John 1:1-5 These verses tell us that Christ was with the Father in the begining and that all things were made through Him. (Jesus was there at the start of creation)
Genesis 1:1-3 These verses tell us that the Father and Holy Spirit were present at the begining. Those eight verses show the Trinity has always been.
Genesis 3:22 God says,"Behold the man has become like us knowing good and evil. Here God the Father refers to the Son and Holy Spirit.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.