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Islam is the real deal
RE: Islam is the real deal
(July 14, 2015 at 6:39 pm)pocaracas Wrote:
(July 14, 2015 at 5:57 pm)huss88ein Wrote: According to what you're implying here you know all about and it is irrelevant here cause the idea here is to discuss facts not miracles .

Take like this my friend if a relegion is 80 % logic and 20% supernatural then you discuss the 80% and then the other part will follow from that initial belief.

Very well.
Everything anyone may claim to be scientific in the qur'an, was already known at the time, or was wildly guessed and, by some stroke of luck, a few things do turn out to be as described.

And no, poetry and stylistic devices which have multiple possible interpretations are not in any way science, nor can they describe scientific facts.

Enjoy your reading on the single topic of embryology... and other medical fields:
http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Sci...mbryo.html
Quote:According to Muslim historians, especially Ibn Abi Usaybia and al-Qifti [37], the most celebrated early graduate of Jundishapur was a doctor named al Harith Ibn Kalada, who was an older contemporary of Muhammed. "He was born probably about the middle of the sixth century, at Ta'if, in the tribe of Banu Thaqif. He traveled through Yemen and then Persia where he received his education in the medical sciences at the great medical school of Jundi-Shapur and thus was intimately acquainted with the medical teachings of Aristotle, Hippocrates and Galen." [38]

He became famous partly as a result of a consultation with King Chosroes [39]. Later he became a companion of the Prophet Muhammed himself, and according to the Muslim medical traditions Muhammed actually sought medical advice from him [40]. He may even have been a relative of the Prophet and his "teachings undoubtedly influenced the latter" [i.e., Muhammed] [41]. "Such medical knowledge as Muhammed possessed, he may well have acquired from Haris bin Kalda [sic], an Arab, who is said to have left the desert for a while and gone to Jundi Shapur to study medicine...On his return Haris settled in Mecca and became the foremost physician of the Arabs of the desert. Whether he ever embraced Islam is uncertain, but this did not prevent the Prophet from sending his sick friends to consult him." [42]
According to hippocrate the embryo is the combination of sperm and menstrual blood and according to Galen
it was only the sperm responsible .
But in islam it was well described as a combination from women and man so who's more accurate?????????
It is even forbidden in islam to have sex during menstrual period so who according to u knew the truth

I'm just saying you're referring to any knowledge the muslims knew from quran as a rip off so mohammad(pbuh ) is every scientist there is and a great leader an a politician and a poet.......etc
For me it is obsurd for a one man to be all of these things it is easier to call him a prophet .
U must also know that mohammad(pbuh) was also a leader in ethics what kind of a man would be that convencing to be a prophet than a real one just saying.

As for Ibn abu usaibah he was born years after mohammad(pbuh)
This is from Wikipedia look at the dates


Ibn Abi Usaibia

 (1203-1270) (Arabic:ابن أبي أصيبعة موفق الدين أبو العباس أحمد بن القاسم بن خليفة الشعري الخزرجي‎, Ibn Abī Uṣaybiʿa Muʾaffaq al-Dīn Abū al-ʿAbbās Aḥmad Ibn Al-Qāsim Ibn Khalīfa al-Khazrajī), an Arab physician and historian, was born at Damascus, a descendant of the Banu Khazraj tribe and the son of an oculist, and studied medicine at Damascus and Cairo. In 1236 he was appointed physician to a new hospital in Cairo, but he surrendered the appointment the following year to take up a post given him by the amir of Damascus in Salkhad near that city. There he lived and died.

So this muslim doctor came years after bin kalda and the prophet(pbuh ) for more about bin kalda you can read this below that this man's existence is even questioned

http://www.hamzatzortzis.com/q-a/was-al-...knowledge/

The idea here is don't base your argue on assumptions base it on facts
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Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 11, 2015 at 7:43 pm
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RE: Islam is the real deal - by Longhorn - July 12, 2015 at 11:44 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 11, 2015 at 10:21 pm
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Islam is the real deal - by TubbyTubby - July 12, 2015 at 6:46 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 12, 2015 at 6:54 pm
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RE: Islam is the real deal - by TubbyTubby - July 12, 2015 at 7:02 pm
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RE: Islam is the real deal - by The Valkyrie - July 12, 2015 at 11:23 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 13, 2015 at 12:19 am
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RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 14, 2015 at 1:18 pm
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RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 14, 2015 at 5:10 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by TubbyTubby - July 14, 2015 at 5:38 pm
Islam is the real deal - by TubbyTubby - July 14, 2015 at 5:45 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 14, 2015 at 5:57 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by pocaracas - July 14, 2015 at 6:39 pm
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RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 14, 2015 at 7:08 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by pocaracas - July 14, 2015 at 7:40 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by The Grand Nudger - July 14, 2015 at 8:09 pm
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RE: Islam is the real deal - by robvalue - July 15, 2015 at 2:36 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by aishatbh95 - July 15, 2015 at 9:51 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by pocaracas - July 15, 2015 at 10:21 am
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RE: Islam is the real deal - by aishatbh95 - July 15, 2015 at 10:47 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by pocaracas - July 15, 2015 at 10:51 am
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RE: Islam is the real deal - by JesusHChrist - July 15, 2015 at 12:02 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by robvalue - July 15, 2015 at 11:45 am
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RE: Islam is the real deal - by The Grand Nudger - July 15, 2015 at 1:02 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by aishatbh95 - July 15, 2015 at 1:02 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by The Grand Nudger - July 15, 2015 at 1:06 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Fidel_Castronaut - July 15, 2015 at 1:09 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by pocaracas - July 15, 2015 at 1:15 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by aishatbh95 - July 15, 2015 at 1:30 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by robvalue - July 15, 2015 at 1:33 pm
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RE: Islam is the real deal - by robvalue - July 15, 2015 at 2:03 pm
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RE: Islam is the real deal - by aishatbh95 - July 15, 2015 at 2:16 pm
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RE: Islam is the real deal - by robvalue - July 15, 2015 at 2:34 pm
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RE: Islam is the real deal - by Spooky - July 15, 2015 at 3:04 pm
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