RE: Proving The Resurrection By the Minimal Facts Approach
July 15, 2015 at 12:04 am
(This post was last modified: July 15, 2015 at 12:07 am by Spooky.)
(July 14, 2015 at 11:37 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: That's not the point. Jesus died by crucifixion. Not in an old folks home. This becomes relevant in light of the rest of the facts.
Yeah, no, no it doesn't. Whether he died on a cross or from a brain parasite, this is completely irrelevant. And this is still conjecture that must follow substantial proof - >if< the biblical jesus ever existed.
(July 14, 2015 at 9:54 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: So, it is your theory then that the disciples hallucinated the appearances of Jesus? Is that your final answer?
My answer is just as irrelevant as the question. You have yet to establish these visions as beliefs or fact. Again, this line of thought must follow that.
(July 14, 2015 at 9:54 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: In your opinion, what explains the reason why Paul, a rising star among the Pharisees, suddenly chucked it all and joined the Church he was persecuting?
Honestly? I don't care. This doesn't prove any resurrection at all. Even if this sudden change of position were proved, we'd never be able to prove the why.
(July 14, 2015 at 11:37 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: In your opinion, what explains the reason why James, who had been skeptical of his brother, Jesus, all of his life, suddenly became one of his most devoted followers enduring even martyrdom?
Still, see previous answer. Can you prove they existed without using the bible? If so, great. Can you prove there wasn't something non-magical to gain?
(July 14, 2015 at 11:37 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: So, the body was stolen but you're not sure about those details, correct?
I don't care about the details. 1. You can't prove (without the bible) that there was a body. 2. The reasons a body may go missing are too numerous to assume something magical happened.
(July 14, 2015 at 11:37 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Great! Let's here your full explanation that takes all five into account adequately. Thanks!
You are presenting these five things as facts. I'm going to help you out a bit today:
fact
fakt/Submit
noun
a thing that is indisputably the case.
"she lacks political experience—a fact that becomes clear when she appears in public"
synonyms: reality, actuality, certainty; More
used in discussing the significance of something that is the case.
noun: the fact that
"the real problem facing them is the fact that their funds are being cut"
a piece of information used as evidence or as part of a report or news article.
synonyms: detail, piece of information, particular, item, specific, element, point, factor, feature, characteristic, ingredient, circumstance, aspect, facet; information
"every fact was double-checked"
I reject your reality and substitute my own!