(July 15, 2015 at 2:33 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Y'know, for someone so serious about what the bible really means when anyone else talks about it, you sure are happy to bandy about "the bible doesn't say this didn't happen!" as an argument when it's in service of your own positions.Dude, seriously?!?
I have to say: "This bible doesn't say this happened" Because That is what rock headed theist and Atheist believe, or rather blindly assume that the fall of man happened on Day 8 or 1 week after creation started. THAT is the only way YECs can say creation is only 5 or 6 thousand years old. Which is what sends you guys into a feeding frenzy. Both are guilty of blind assumption and ignoring what the other has to say, all the while assuming what you have to say can only be the right answer. without out even checking the source material to ensure that it even supports your assumption.
It's only when you simply read what is written, and do not add the assumption that the fall happened right away, then both Accounts of creation CAN work together.
Quote:Hey! Maybe the garden was actually up in space, and it descended to earth to let Adam and Eve off, before rising back up on wires! The bible doesn't say it didn't happen, therefore it's equally as possible as what you're saying. Bible fan fiction is easy, but it's also not compelling: you can make up anything, so long as your only criteria for plausibility is that it isn't explicitly denied in canon.Well, no it couldn't have worked that way because of the placement in the middle east (Or rather the rivers) that defined it are and have been established in the genesis account, not to mention the genesis mentions earth several different times, from the source of where God got the material to fashion Adam to the bird that flew above the earth to the fish that swam in the water, and Adam's interaction with these animals.
The earth is the earth. The garden however was a reserve placed on the Earth that Adam, Eve and God communed.
