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Statler Waldorf introduction.
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RE: Statler Waldorf introduction.
(October 14, 2010 at 5:37 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Haha, I am sure you are aware that high school textbooks are written for a specific age range, just as are junior high books and so on. These books do not contain the cutting edge research in any of their disciplines (I sure hope they don't). If you were in a high school debate you would certainly not appeal to an elementary school textbook just as you should not appeal to a high school textbook in a discussion at this level (assuming we have both graduated high school, I know I did). These textbooks do nothing to refute the an-isotropic propagation of light which I pointed out earlier in a post you either ignored or didn't understand. What you are arguing for uses a calculated time definition, which under this defintion light is indeed isotropic. However, using the observational time defintion light becomes an-isotropic. They are both valid definitions of time and can be converted back and forth just like meters and centimeters. The Creation account in Genesis uses the observational time definition, so to argue against this reality by using the calculated time definition would be completely invalid. It would be like saying, "no no no, that's not a mile, it's 5280 feet!". Clear now?

You certainly keep saying this to be the case anyway, but other than telling me that I'm wrong, you've done nothing to actually make that case.
You're absolutely right that school textbooks are written for a specific age range and they do not contain cutting-edge research, which makes it all the more hilarious when it so easily can be used in a manner that refutes young-earth creationism, as highlighted in the video or that well established theory that by that famous physicist you continue to dismiss but haven't actually refuted.

You're right. Genesis does refute established scientific understanding of physics.
That was only pointed out in that youtube video and a number of times by people on this and the other thread. That's why the genesis account is ignored by people studying physics, astronomy, and so on.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925

Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
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Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Statler Waldorf - October 13, 2010 at 2:41 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by TheDarkestOfAngels - October 13, 2010 at 2:48 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Statler Waldorf - October 13, 2010 at 3:03 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by TheDarkestOfAngels - October 13, 2010 at 3:15 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Statler Waldorf - October 13, 2010 at 3:33 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Thor - October 13, 2010 at 6:02 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Welsh cake - October 13, 2010 at 2:53 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Shell B - October 13, 2010 at 3:09 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Statler Waldorf - October 13, 2010 at 3:11 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Shell B - October 13, 2010 at 3:14 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Tiberius - October 13, 2010 at 3:17 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by LastPoet - October 13, 2010 at 3:46 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Statler Waldorf - October 13, 2010 at 4:11 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Shell B - October 13, 2010 at 4:22 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Autumnlicious - October 13, 2010 at 4:26 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by TheDarkestOfAngels - October 13, 2010 at 3:46 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Statler Waldorf - October 13, 2010 at 4:22 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Shell B - October 13, 2010 at 4:27 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by HeyItsZeus - October 13, 2010 at 4:37 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Statler Waldorf - October 13, 2010 at 4:40 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Ace Otana - October 13, 2010 at 4:59 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Shell B - October 13, 2010 at 5:02 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by HeyItsZeus - October 13, 2010 at 5:15 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by TheDarkestOfAngels - October 13, 2010 at 4:44 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Statler Waldorf - October 13, 2010 at 6:46 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Thor - October 14, 2010 at 9:06 am
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by TheDarkestOfAngels - October 13, 2010 at 7:32 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Zen Badger - October 14, 2010 at 10:19 am
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by downbeatplumb - October 14, 2010 at 2:03 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Statler Waldorf - October 14, 2010 at 3:32 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Thor - October 14, 2010 at 3:47 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Statler Waldorf - October 14, 2010 at 3:54 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Thor - October 14, 2010 at 4:18 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Statler Waldorf - October 14, 2010 at 5:34 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by TheDarkestOfAngels - October 14, 2010 at 3:49 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Darwinian - October 14, 2010 at 3:35 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Statler Waldorf - October 14, 2010 at 3:42 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Darwinian - October 14, 2010 at 3:44 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by LastPoet - October 14, 2010 at 4:31 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Statler Waldorf - October 14, 2010 at 5:37 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Thor - October 14, 2010 at 6:04 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by theophilus - October 15, 2010 at 12:59 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Thor - October 15, 2010 at 4:39 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Statler Waldorf - October 15, 2010 at 3:39 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by TheDarkestOfAngels - October 15, 2010 at 4:09 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by TheDarkestOfAngels - October 14, 2010 at 6:15 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by theVOID - October 14, 2010 at 6:52 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by TheDarkestOfAngels - October 14, 2010 at 4:54 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by orogenicman - October 14, 2010 at 5:34 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by orogenicman - October 14, 2010 at 6:29 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Zen Badger - October 14, 2010 at 6:49 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by TheDarkestOfAngels - October 15, 2010 at 2:52 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Statler Waldorf - October 15, 2010 at 4:14 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Statler Waldorf - October 15, 2010 at 4:57 pm

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