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Introduction
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Introduction
Hello there. I am Lobster lover. I love lobsters. They are wonderful animals. I am a non-theist and a non-atheist. Seems contradictory but I am using two different senses for each label in that case. I am not conflating because I am precisely specifying that. I'm old. It's best to just think of me as ignostic. Not agnostic. But ignostic. A theological non-cognitivist. I am here for science, psychology, entertainment and comparative religion.
Schopenhauer Wrote:The intellect has become free, and in this state it does not even know or understand any other interest than that of truth.

Epicurus Wrote:The greatest reward of righteousness is peace of mind.

Epicurus Wrote:Don't fear god,
Don't worry about death;

What is good is easy to get,

What is terrible is easy to endure
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#2
RE: Introduction
Welcome. Pleasure to meet you!

We have another ignostic or two around here, so you aren't alone. I've always liked ignosticism, though I'm an (ordinary, boring) agnostic at the end of the day.
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#3
RE: Introduction
(January 23, 2022 at 8:24 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: Wellcome. Pleasure to meet you!

We have another ignostic or two around here, so you aren't alone. I've always liked ignosticism, though I'm an (ordinary, boring) agnostic at the end of the day.

Does that mean that you think the existence of at least some sort of deity is exactly 50%?
Schopenhauer Wrote:The intellect has become free, and in this state it does not even know or understand any other interest than that of truth.

Epicurus Wrote:The greatest reward of righteousness is peace of mind.

Epicurus Wrote:Don't fear god,
Don't worry about death;

What is good is easy to get,

What is terrible is easy to endure
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#4
RE: Introduction
Welcome Woof.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem




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#5
RE: Introduction
(January 23, 2022 at 8:26 pm)Lobster Lover Wrote:
(January 23, 2022 at 8:24 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: Wellcome. Pleasure to meet you!

We have another ignostic or two around here, so you aren't alone. I've always liked ignosticism, though I'm an (ordinary, boring) agnostic at the end of the day.

Does that mean that you think the existence of at least some sort of deity is exactly 50%?

It simply means "I don't know." 

Ultimately, what I find plausible about God's existence is more-or-less indistinguishable from what a gnostic atheist thinks. I just have to admit that I don't have access to that knowledge because God (supposedly) has Santa Claus-like powers and can turn himself invisible and such. Why don't you start a thread about what agnosticism/ignosticism/atheism means to you and we'll discuss it there? 

Your intro thread is for people to come say hi to you and for you to discuss yourself. It isn't for me to defend my own positions.
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RE: Introduction
(January 23, 2022 at 8:34 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:
(January 23, 2022 at 8:26 pm)Lobster Lover Wrote: Does that mean that you think the existence of at least some sort of deity is exactly 50%?

It simply means "I don't know." 

Ultimately, what I find plausible about God's existence is more-or-less indistinguishable from what a gnostic atheist thinks. I just have to admit that I don't have access to that knowledge because God (supposedly) has Santa Claus-like powers and can turn himself invisible and such. Why don't you start a thread about what agnosticism/ignosticism/atheism means to you and we'll discuss it there? 

Your intro thread is for people to come say hi to you and for you to discuss yourself. It isn't for me to defend my own positions.

I was just curious.
Schopenhauer Wrote:The intellect has become free, and in this state it does not even know or understand any other interest than that of truth.

Epicurus Wrote:The greatest reward of righteousness is peace of mind.

Epicurus Wrote:Don't fear god,
Don't worry about death;

What is good is easy to get,

What is terrible is easy to endure
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#7
RE: Introduction
(January 23, 2022 at 8:45 pm)Lobster Lover Wrote:
(January 23, 2022 at 8:34 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: It simply means "I don't know." 

Ultimately, what I find plausible about God's existence is more-or-less indistinguishable from what a gnostic atheist thinks. I just have to admit that I don't have access to that knowledge because God (supposedly) has Santa Claus-like powers and can turn himself invisible and such. Why don't you start a thread about what agnosticism/ignosticism/atheism means to you and we'll discuss it there? 

Your intro thread is for people to come say hi to you and for you to discuss yourself. It isn't for me to defend my own positions.

I was just curious.

Then start the thread, man. I wanna discuss it at length... just not in your intro thread. Would you prefer that I create the thread? I'll do that, no problem.
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RE: Introduction
(January 23, 2022 at 8:54 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:
(January 23, 2022 at 8:45 pm)Lobster Lover Wrote: I was just curious.

Then start the thread, man. I wanna discuss it at length... just not in your intro thread. Would you prefer that I create the thread? I'll do that, no problem.

Go ahead. I'm not really interested in discussing that in particular. But I'll most likely reply.
Schopenhauer Wrote:The intellect has become free, and in this state it does not even know or understand any other interest than that of truth.

Epicurus Wrote:The greatest reward of righteousness is peace of mind.

Epicurus Wrote:Don't fear god,
Don't worry about death;

What is good is easy to get,

What is terrible is easy to endure
Reply
#9
RE: Introduction
(January 23, 2022 at 8:55 pm)Lobster Lover Wrote:
(January 23, 2022 at 8:54 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: Then start the thread, man. I wanna discuss it at length... just not in your intro thread. Would you prefer that I create the thread? I'll do that, no problem.

Go ahead. I'm not really interested in discussing that in particular. But I'll most likely reply.

Well, I'm not gonna start a thread if you're not interested. But the OP seems to indicate you have some interest in the subject. Whatever the case, it's a topic I find interesting, so, if a thread were to be made, I'd chip in.
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#10
RE: Introduction
(January 23, 2022 at 10:01 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:
(January 23, 2022 at 8:55 pm)Lobster Lover Wrote: Go ahead. I'm not really interested in discussing that in particular. But I'll most likely reply.

Well, I'm not gonna start a thread if you're not interested. But the OP seems to indicate you have some interest in the subject. Whatever the case, it's a topic I find interesting, so, if a thread were to be made, I'd chip in.

I only really mentioned my position on gods because this is an an atheist forum. I'm just here to have fun interacting with minds that are more likely to be intelligent. I don't actually care about the issue anymore. I figured out the correct answer a long time ago. It's not a difficult question.

P.S. It's also important to signal that you are on the right side of the battle. One doesn't want one's allies turning on one. I'm anti-God.
Schopenhauer Wrote:The intellect has become free, and in this state it does not even know or understand any other interest than that of truth.

Epicurus Wrote:The greatest reward of righteousness is peace of mind.

Epicurus Wrote:Don't fear god,
Don't worry about death;

What is good is easy to get,

What is terrible is easy to endure
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