Evidence God Exists

[Thor]

It doesn't matter. Only God knows why things happened the way they did in those situations.

And your evidence for the veracity of this statement is.....?

I can only point out situations in which prayer and faith did work.

Prayer worked? Really? What examples do you have for this? And how do you know it was "prayer" that made the difference?

Think of a car that goes dead. Most of the time people will get jumper cables and give it a boost. Will that turn on their car every time? Of course not. Are you going to say that jumper cables don't work because they don't always turn on a car? No. If the car won't turn on, most of the time, there's something wrong with the car itself, not the cables. Think of prayer that way. If it doesn't work, there's a reason.

If prayer doesn't work, "there's a reason"? I agree. The reason is that no one is listening.

Just because a person says they're a Christian doesn't mean they really are. Christians have been known to lead double lives, lack compassion, make self-destructive decisions, sin, etc. Even if a person is a good Christian, if they pray without faith at any given time their prayers will not be answered.

And here we have the "No true Scotsman" fallacy.

But let's ignore that. Instead, let's take the most pious and selfless Christian you can imagine. Now let's have that Christian pray as parents bring their children who are afflicted with cerebral palsy. Let's say that this Christian prays before each child, asking "God" to immediately cure the child. (So we have a pious and selfless Christian praying for innocent children). And let's say that he prays for 1,000 children. What do you think will happen? How many of those thousand children would you expect to get up and walk away with their cerebral palsy cured?

I would expect none.

Most atheists have a very simple-minded view of God. He's supposed to be like some magic wand, and every time you pray to him, the answer has to be yes, or he doesn't exist.

No, I wouldn't say "every time". But I would think that JUST ONCE he would have restored the limbs of an amputee victim. Or made a paralyzed person get up and walk. Or cured someone with Down's Syndrome.

And I must point out that your Bible specifically tells us that Jesus will grant whatever you want if you believe and ask him for it. We know THAT is total bullshit. Why would that be?

That's like saying that every time someone applies for a loan, the bank has to say yes. If not, the only conclusion is that the bank has no money. God is much more complex than that.

You want to compare a business whose purpose is to make a profit to "God" answering prayers? Well, yeah... I can actually see the similarity.

Good things can happen to unbelievers, and bad things can happen to Christians. This does not disprove the existence of God, or the power of prayer.

How many times do we have to tell you that it's nearly impossible to DISPROVE a claim. YOU must provide evidence that your claim is true. And so far you haven't.

God said that he could bless whomever he pleases.

Don't you mean that whoever wrote the crap in the Bible said this?

But we can be assured that when he blesses someone who is an unbeliever, there is a master plan behind it.

HONK! HONK! HONK!

There goes my rationalization meter again!