(July 19, 2015 at 5:18 am)Little Rik Wrote:(July 19, 2015 at 5:05 am)Neimenovic Wrote: Yes, consciousness requires a brain. It is the process resulting from a working brain.You do one more mistake Neimen.
And it's not according to me.
consciousness
[kon-shuh s-nis]
noun
1.
the state of being conscious; awareness of one's own existence, sensations, thoughts, surroundings, etc.
2.
the thoughts and feelings, collectively, of an individual or of an aggregate of people:
the moral consciousness of a nation.
3.
full activity of the mind and senses, as in waking life:
to regain consciousness after fainting.
4.
awareness of something for what it is; internal knowledge:
consciousness of wrongdoing.
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Those are the definitions of consciousness. All of them require a brain. If you don't agree, please demonstrate an instance of consciousness occurring as described by one of the above definitions that does not.
You are perfectly welcome to make up your own meanings of words and use them accordingly, but don't expect others to accept them.
You assume that the level of consciousness must be the same for every living thing so if humans got a brain also a plant or a cell should have a brain
in order to have a consciousness if not she can't be conscious.
Didn't you go to the primary schools before you got into the high school and then to the uni?
Don't you know that the level of consciousness grow as you evolve?
Did Santa told you that without a brain you can not be conscious?
So how a plant can express a sense of pain then?
Having a brain =/= consciousness, having consciousness = having a brain. IOW not everything that has a brain is conscious but everything that is conscious has a brain. Feel free to prove me wrong.
Please provide an instance in which a plant demonstrates consciousness as defined above.