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Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter?
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RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter?
July 19, 2015 at 11:03 am (This post was last modified: July 19, 2015 at 11:04 am by Randy Carson.)
(July 19, 2015 at 10:54 am)Chad32 Wrote: The crucifixion is meaningless by default. Either because lots of people were crucified all the time, or because he got rewarded in heaven after he died by being worshipied. So he didn't really lose anything. He lived longer than a lot of people got to, had a really bad week, and got a higher place in heaven than the saintliest saint who ever sainted.

The crucifixion of Jesus is not "meaningless by default" precisely because of Who Jesus is. God sacrificed Himself for you.

He wasn't rewarded in heaven. He is God and not a man. Everything that exists belongs to him. What reward would he receive?
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Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter?

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Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by luka - July 19, 2015 at 1:37 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Minimalist - July 19, 2015 at 1:59 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by robvalue - July 19, 2015 at 2:40 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Athene - July 19, 2015 at 2:54 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Longhorn - July 19, 2015 at 3:07 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 10:07 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Longhorn - July 19, 2015 at 10:11 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 10:16 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Longhorn - July 19, 2015 at 10:17 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 10:52 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Longhorn - July 19, 2015 at 10:56 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 11:05 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Longhorn - July 19, 2015 at 11:54 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 12:17 pm
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Longhorn - July 19, 2015 at 12:22 pm
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Nope - July 19, 2015 at 10:18 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 10:53 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Nope - July 19, 2015 at 11:49 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by polar bear - July 19, 2015 at 10:18 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 10:54 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Minimalist - July 19, 2015 at 10:59 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 11:07 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Nope - July 19, 2015 at 11:59 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Nope - July 19, 2015 at 9:51 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 10:09 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Longhorn - July 19, 2015 at 10:14 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by polar bear - July 19, 2015 at 10:15 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Nope - July 19, 2015 at 10:16 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 10:49 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Nope - July 19, 2015 at 11:43 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Bob Kelso - July 21, 2015 at 1:35 pm
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by vorlon13 - July 19, 2015 at 9:54 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 10:04 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Nope - July 19, 2015 at 10:11 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 10:34 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Nope - July 19, 2015 at 12:06 pm
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 12:27 pm
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Nope - July 19, 2015 at 12:30 pm
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 12:32 pm
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Nope - July 19, 2015 at 12:06 pm
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by robvalue - July 19, 2015 at 10:06 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Longhorn - July 19, 2015 at 10:16 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 10:36 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by robvalue - July 19, 2015 at 10:14 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by robvalue - July 19, 2015 at 10:22 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Whateverist - July 19, 2015 at 10:29 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by robvalue - July 19, 2015 at 10:31 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 10:57 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Chad32 - July 19, 2015 at 10:44 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Minimalist - July 19, 2015 at 10:45 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 11:00 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Minimalist - July 19, 2015 at 10:54 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Chad32 - July 19, 2015 at 10:54 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 11:03 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Chad32 - July 19, 2015 at 12:04 pm
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 11:14 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 11:53 am
Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by KUSA - July 19, 2015 at 11:41 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 12:02 pm
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Nope - July 19, 2015 at 12:13 pm
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 12:30 pm
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 12:24 pm
Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by KUSA - July 19, 2015 at 2:47 pm
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Godschild - July 20, 2015 at 10:57 pm
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Spooky - July 20, 2015 at 10:59 pm
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by The Valkyrie - July 20, 2015 at 11:10 pm
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Spooky - July 20, 2015 at 10:58 pm
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Godschild - July 20, 2015 at 10:55 pm
Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by KUSA - July 20, 2015 at 11:17 pm
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Spooky - July 20, 2015 at 11:22 pm
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by The Valkyrie - July 20, 2015 at 11:27 pm
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Godschild - July 21, 2015 at 12:02 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Silver - July 21, 2015 at 12:21 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Spooky - July 21, 2015 at 12:43 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Cato - July 21, 2015 at 2:46 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Pyrrho - July 21, 2015 at 10:56 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Spooky - July 21, 2015 at 12:11 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Godschild - July 21, 2015 at 12:15 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Minimalist - July 21, 2015 at 12:30 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by robvalue - July 21, 2015 at 2:25 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by robvalue - July 21, 2015 at 2:37 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by robvalue - July 21, 2015 at 11:05 am
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Minimalist - July 21, 2015 at 12:54 pm
Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by KUSA - July 21, 2015 at 12:33 pm
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Minimalist - July 21, 2015 at 3:50 pm
RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Pyrrho - July 21, 2015 at 4:18 pm

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