RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter?
July 19, 2015 at 11:14 am
(This post was last modified: July 19, 2015 at 11:14 am by Randy Carson.)
(July 19, 2015 at 11:05 am)Rhythm Wrote:(July 19, 2015 at 11:00 am)Randy Carson Wrote: You have no understanding of your own personal sin.I don't require any understanding of my own personal sin (whatever that means to you), I'm only explaining the contents of my concsience, which does not and cannot include vicarious redemption in any moral, ethical, or legal system. It doesn't fit in yours either...obviously, except in this one case you've made special pleading arguments for.
Jesus was willing to die so that you don't have to.
I'm sure just knowing that must drive you away from him because he's such a miserable guy for loving you that much...
Oh, yes. You need to know sooner rather than later when it will be too late.
Quote:I'm driven away because I'm repulsed at the barbarity and immorality of your religion - regardless of it's truth. Tell me more all you like......again, you're failing the purpose you claimed for apologists, and I don;t believe you in any case...not - mind you, on the christ and god bit...I don't believe that you subscribe to a scapegoating sense of ethics or morality anymore than I do.
- You are a sinner. You have sin within you as a result of the fall, and you commit personal sins against God for which you are accountable.
- As a result of this, you are separated from a Holy God.
- There is absolutely nothing you can do about this separation on your own. If you die in this state, you will be separated from God for eternity.
- Jesus is the means by which you can be re-stored to a right relationship with God. You must place your faith in Him to be saved.