RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter?
July 19, 2015 at 12:04 pm
(This post was last modified: July 19, 2015 at 12:06 pm by Chad32.)
(July 19, 2015 at 11:03 am)Randy Carson Wrote:(July 19, 2015 at 10:54 am)Chad32 Wrote: The crucifixion is meaningless by default. Either because lots of people were crucified all the time, or because he got rewarded in heaven after he died by being worshipied. So he didn't really lose anything. He lived longer than a lot of people got to, had a really bad week, and got a higher place in heaven than the saintliest saint who ever sainted.
The crucifixion of Jesus is not "meaningless by default" precisely because of Who Jesus is. God sacrificed Himself for you.
He wasn't rewarded in heaven. He is God and not a man. Everything that exists belongs to him. What reward would he receive?
The bible is a bit mixed on whether Jesus is Yahweh, or the a different person, as he is mentioned as sitting at the right hand of god.
So what did he sacrifice? What is he lacking now that he did not lack then? aside from a physical body?
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."
10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/
Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50
A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html
10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/
Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50
A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html
