the slippery "F" word - my solution

[yuriythebest]

One of the most time-consuming and frustrating things a theist can do is say something like "you have faith that the sun will rise up tomorrow - thus even you have faith, so how can you be critical of my faith in god" - while it's possible to go into dictionary definitions of the multiple way the word can be used or go the route that one has no faith at all in anything in the believe without evidence meaning of the word, what I have found is that it is best de-obfuscated by dissecting the F word into something a computer might understand:

Faith, Belief Definition:
An assertion that assertion A matches reality with X degree of probability with Z as evidence

One can use the above, for both the sun rising up and theistic faith:

faith that chair won't break when you sit on it:
An assertion that "faith that chair won't break when you sit on it" matches reality with "99,9%" degree of probability with "a life led where chairs have been observed to break very infrequently when one sits on them" as evidence

Theistic:
Assertion that "God, the afterlife exist" matches reality with 100% of probability with "the bible, personal feelings" as evidence
(this can then probably lead to the debate as to why the bible is good evidence - if they say faith return to the above formula once more)

hope this helps someone...