Is rape natural?

[Creed of Heresy]

You make a presumption natural good, unnatural bad. The male bed bug has an armoured penis and enters the female not through any orifice, but hammers his way in through the stomach it maybe natural, but we can presume it does not lead to a loving relationship.

I argue actually that just because something SEEMS natural just because it happens in the "natural world," doesn't make it so to a human being being, or to our sapient awareness and social ideas on morality.

Rape is an aberration. And we human beings are constantly at war with our instincts and basic primal drives. I am stating that using the claim that because rape happens amongst animals that therefore it's somehow normal is folly and utterly stupid. Even more so when someone starts trying to compare the "plight" of rapists to people who are simply gay.

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I reiterate, to get back on point; humans are not animals.

That is where you are wrong: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal

Animals have several characteristics that set them apart from other living things. Animals are eukaryotic and mostly multicellular, which separates them from bacteria and most protists. They are heterotrophic, generally digesting food in an internal chamber, which separates them from plants and algae. They are also distinguished from plants, algae, and fungi by lacking rigid cell walls.All animals are motile, if only at certain life stages. In most animals, embryos pass through a blastula stage, which is a characteristic exclusive to animals.

On other news, rape threads always end badly.

Literal-minded, much? I'm going more for the philosophical point. What distinguishes a human being from every other animal? Reason. The ability to reason, or at the very least rationalize. We fit all the definitions of animals, yes, but there's also a "plus" in there as well. We're animals. Technically. In the same way an aircraft carrier could be called a boat.

I see no reason why this thread should end badly. I'm not arguing rape is a good thing; quite the opposite, I'm simply stating a point that rape is not justifiable in humans by the "in nature" argument.