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Did King David rape Bath-sheba?
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RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba?
(June 20, 2014 at 1:17 pm)Chad32 Wrote: No. Protection for the woman would be to change society so women aren't values solely by their virginity, and to keep rape victims as far away from their rapists as possible. That way she's treated as a person, instead of damaged goods.
You haven't demonstrated that Deut 22:28-29 indicates rape. Atheists like to use the paraphrased NIV which says rape, but that is not the usual translation. Here is Young's Literal:

28`When a man findeth a damsel, a virgin who is not betrothed, and hath caught her, and lain with her, and they have been found,
29 then hath the man who is lying with her given to the father of the damsel fifty silverlings, and to him she is for a wife; because that he hath humbled her, he is not able to send her away all his days.

Here's the NKJV"
28 “If a man finds a young woman who is a virgin, who is not betrothed, and he seizes her and lies with her, and they are found out, 29 then the man who lay with her shall give to the young woman’s father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife because he has humbled her; he shall not be permitted to divorce her all his days.

"Caught/seize" could indicate violence but do not necessarily indicate violence. So, which is it? Looking at the rest, we see that "they" are found out, which implies the woman was complicit in the act. Further, it says that the man has "humbled" her. The same word is used in v24, which refers to consensual sex. The word is not used in v25-27, which refers to rape.
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Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Tonus - June 19, 2014 at 4:40 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Chad32 - June 19, 2014 at 4:57 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Minimalist - June 19, 2014 at 5:12 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by ShaMan - June 19, 2014 at 5:14 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Tonus - June 20, 2014 at 5:39 am
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Minimalist - June 19, 2014 at 5:18 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by LostLocke - June 19, 2014 at 5:31 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Minimalist - June 19, 2014 at 5:53 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Lek - June 19, 2014 at 6:33 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by ShaMan - June 19, 2014 at 6:37 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Bad Writer - June 19, 2014 at 6:40 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Lek - June 19, 2014 at 7:50 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by The Valkyrie - June 19, 2014 at 7:04 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by LostLocke - June 19, 2014 at 7:07 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Lek - June 19, 2014 at 7:12 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Losty - June 19, 2014 at 7:56 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Lek - June 19, 2014 at 8:02 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Bad Writer - June 19, 2014 at 8:06 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Losty - June 19, 2014 at 8:13 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by CindysRain - June 19, 2014 at 8:22 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Bob Kelso - June 19, 2014 at 9:30 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by CindysRain - June 19, 2014 at 11:27 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Anomalocaris - June 20, 2014 at 9:49 am
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 27, 2014 at 4:33 am
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Chad32 - June 19, 2014 at 7:15 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Minimalist - June 19, 2014 at 8:25 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by CapnAwesome - June 19, 2014 at 9:36 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Wyrd of Gawd - June 20, 2014 at 12:41 am
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by archangle - June 20, 2014 at 8:39 am
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Grandizer - June 20, 2014 at 8:50 am
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by John V - June 20, 2014 at 9:35 am
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Tonus - June 20, 2014 at 12:14 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Grandizer - June 20, 2014 at 12:29 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by John V - June 20, 2014 at 12:31 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Tonus - June 20, 2014 at 1:42 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by John V - June 20, 2014 at 3:11 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Tonus - June 20, 2014 at 3:50 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by John V - June 20, 2014 at 6:10 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Tonus - June 20, 2014 at 9:18 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by John V - June 21, 2014 at 3:03 am
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Tonus - June 21, 2014 at 7:39 am
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by John V - June 21, 2014 at 7:55 am
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Chad32 - June 20, 2014 at 12:45 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by John V - June 20, 2014 at 12:54 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Wyrd of Gawd - June 20, 2014 at 7:42 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Chad32 - June 20, 2014 at 1:08 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by John V - June 20, 2014 at 1:15 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Chad32 - June 20, 2014 at 1:17 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by John V - June 20, 2014 at 1:33 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Anomalocaris - June 20, 2014 at 1:50 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Minimalist - June 20, 2014 at 3:20 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Chad32 - June 20, 2014 at 3:28 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by John V - June 20, 2014 at 3:42 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Chad32 - June 20, 2014 at 3:50 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Minimalist - June 20, 2014 at 3:44 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by John V - June 20, 2014 at 3:50 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Lek - June 20, 2014 at 8:32 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Bad Writer - June 20, 2014 at 8:59 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Wyrd of Gawd - June 21, 2014 at 12:40 am
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by strawdawg - November 26, 2014 at 10:05 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Lemonvariable72 - November 27, 2014 at 2:18 am
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by strawdawg - November 27, 2014 at 3:56 am
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 29, 2014 at 4:13 am
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Minimalist - November 26, 2014 at 10:14 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Losty - November 26, 2014 at 10:36 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Lemonvariable72 - November 27, 2014 at 2:20 am
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Nope - November 27, 2014 at 3:14 am
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by rexbeccarox - November 27, 2014 at 2:20 am
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Minimalist - November 27, 2014 at 2:55 am
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by vorlon13 - November 27, 2014 at 9:29 am
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Anomalocaris - November 27, 2014 at 11:00 am
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Minimalist - November 29, 2014 at 10:02 pm
RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba? - by Drich - December 3, 2014 at 2:38 am

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