RE: Evidence God Exists
October 7, 2010 at 2:43 pm
(This post was last modified: October 7, 2010 at 2:52 pm by gmjackson.)
(March 9, 2010 at 12:15 am)AngelThMan Wrote: Without further ado, here’s the evidence: Humans are the only species, out of millions of species, which have evolved into an intelligent life form. Other species live pretty much to eat and sleep -- survival. If our evolution were only a result of natural selection, shouldn’t other species, or even just one, have evolved into intelligent beings after millions of years? But the fact is that no other species have been able to develop science, literature, art, music and intelligent thought process as humans have. Isn’t this evidence that God exists?
No more than it is evidence that Thor exists or that Zeus exists or that Krishna exists or that the flying spaghetti monster exists. Your evidence is based on priori reasoning. First you must assume your god exists before the evidence can have any value. If you assume he does not exist, then the evidence does not necessarily lead to the conclusion that the god of Abraham exists.
(March 9, 2010 at 12:15 am)AngelThMan Wrote: Yes it is, and for several reasons. For one thing it corroborates what’s written in the bible,It also corroborates with several other creation myths. For example, the Hindus believe the universe is like an egg that expands and contracts. Such a belief corroborates with the expanding universe theory. So why aren't you a Hindu? I will also point out that your belief in evolution is not corroborated by the Bible. You either believe Adam was made fully grown from dust or you believe he had a more primitive anscestor which he evolved from. So make up your mind.
(March 9, 2010 at 12:15 am)AngelThMan Wrote: which is that God created man in his image,
Really? But God is invisible, so why aren't we? Or, which one of us looks most like God? First we must establish that there is a God by observing an actual god, then we must determine if he resembles us.
(March 9, 2010 at 12:15 am)AngelThMan Wrote: and that animals are inferior.
Perhaps they are inferior in one respect, but are generally faster, stronger, etc. Bacteria will survive long after we have perished, so they are superior.
(March 9, 2010 at 12:15 am)AngelThMan Wrote: But to truly understand why my evidence points towards a deity one needs to be able to appreciate the grandness of this gift that is human intelligence.
I do appreciate the grandness of human intelligence, but fail to see why it must necessarily point to a deity and your deity in particular.
(March 9, 2010 at 12:15 am)AngelThMan Wrote: And you have to ask yourself, why are we the only species, out of millions, that have achieved this type of intelligence?
Because evolution worked out that way. We could also ask why crocodiles don't age, and a billion other questions. Our ignorance is not proof of a deity; it is simply proof of our ignorance.
(March 9, 2010 at 12:15 am)AngelThMan Wrote: Evolution is about natural selection, but shouldn’t at least one other species, out of millions, have benefited from intelligence?
No, because evolution is blind. It doesn't have to play by your rules. It is well within the limits of pure chance that one species has our intelligence.
(March 9, 2010 at 12:15 am)AngelThMan Wrote: I think so. And there would be a myriad of other intelligent species if there were no God.
Even if there was a myriad of intelligent species, you could argue that THAT is proof of God. "Why are there so many intelligent species if there is no god?" you could ask. That is why your "evidence" of God fails. No matter what the outcome of evolution, you could argue that it couldn't have happened the way it happened if there was no god.
(March 9, 2010 at 12:15 am)AngelThMan Wrote: If you can appreciate the grandness and uniqueness of human intelligence, then you’ll understand why only humans were given this gift, and you'll know why what I've outlined here points to a God.
Every creature is unique and grand in some way. You are simply biased because you are human. Even if we accept your assumption that humans are the only unique, grand creatures on Earth, that evidence does not necessarily have to point to a god. It could just as easily point to a series of spontaneous chemical reactions that eventually formed life and so on.
Blame Hitchens, Dawkins & Harris...