Theist zone

[Ace Otana]

do you believe that this nature is wise and have a system?also i want to know what you believe about the soul do you think there is something beyond our physical body or not?

No on the first question and no on the second. I don't believe that nature is wise (in the sense that it has some kind of intelligance) and that it isn't a system. Nature is the random chance event that isn't directed by any outside force or intelligance. Like it's the natural chance event that this planet formed by the uncollected material flying through space. With the help of gravity the uncollected material comes together. No intelligance needed. Also I don't believe in the existance of a soul or anything of the sort. You are the brain, 100% of it. When it dies, so do you. The stored knowledge, memory, ect ect will be gone. You cease to exist.

i dont know about all theists but for me i believe that anything is caused by something if we dont know it now we may know it later but the difference is i say that this is how god created it and you say that this is how it is on its own.(if am right explain this to me as i dont understand how could someone believe that something is created without a creator)
i believe that god put a cause for things to happen so when we know that the universe started with the big bang that doesnt mean that it was created on its own but this is the cause god made for the universe to exist

if am right explain this to me as i dont understand how could someone believe that something is created without a creator)

This planet formed on it's own without a creator, the solar system came about without a creator, so did the galaxy...why can't the universe too? Natural forces and random chance events can easily bring all this about. You and I exist by sheer chance, if your parents had sex a minute off and you would not be here. Random chance determines all. You don't need a creator for something to exist.

i believe that god put a cause for things to happen so when we know that the universe started with the big bang that doesnt mean that it was created on its own but this is the cause god made for the universe to exist

You believe in god so you are going to believe in purpose and cause by intelligance. I on the other hand don't believe in god and so any cause from my point of view is a natural one. I cannot say how the universe formed and nor can you, neither of us know. It's just you believe god was behind it and I don't.
There is no evidence for god but there is evidence to suggest that god was never needed for the universe to form. I don't think we can ever disprove god's existance but we can prove that god was never needed for anything. I think it's only a matter of time.