"Not the right time" rears it's ugly head again.

[AFTT47]

Your lack of understanding is irrelevant. If you're trying to influence an emotion-based person, you have to appeal to them emotionally. Isn't that logical?

They're not emotion-based people, they're people who are using other people's emotions for their own personal gain (talking about the NRA and many Republicans).

Seems like you completely changed the subject here. I'm talking about people Brian is attempting to reach with the logical argument that prayer is nonsense. Most of those people are emotional - especially when they are grieving. I maintain that hitting them with logic at that time is counter-productive - unless done VERY carefully. They simply are not going to be receptive. We, as logical people, should understand that. It's a simple equation, really. Logical arguments on emotional people in a particularly emotional state = FAILURE.