RE: Ethics question for theists - serious - looking for opinions not argument.
September 20, 2016 at 4:48 pm
(September 20, 2016 at 4:28 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:(September 20, 2016 at 4:11 pm)Nihilist Virus Wrote: I think you absolutely can categorize anyone with an official position of power within the Catholic church as scum.I do work for the catholic church. I know that they have had corruption and abuse throughout their history, and it hasn't been eradicated. I met a Bishop who had covered up abuse - and I was not anxious to spend any time in his company. (And this was before I knew.) I met a Bishop who is a fan of Pope Francis, and who has worked to root out abuse - and I find him a very pleasant person. I love my country, but the same could be said for America - there are abuses of power, there is a horrible history of racism and genocide and oppression. There are folks who want to get rid of anyone who isn't white (!!!), and folks who want to make life better for every American.
My boss is great, he's the best boss I ever had, and I'm 99% sure he's a Catholic without having ever asked him. But he's running his own business and working another job, also he works out and has a family with 3 kids, so he's legit busy 24/7 and obviously has no position of power within the church.
But let's put this in perspective. If you worked for a huge organization that you later discovered had engaged in the cover-up of thousands upon thousands of child rapes, would you at least feel a little scummy?
I don't feel scummy because I work for the catholic church. I have some reservations about myself as a lesbian atheist working for the catholic church, where most of the people in the pews think I'm a devout catholic.
I would prefer to challenge illogical beliefs - - and not attack a whole group. There is good and bad . . . almost anywhere.
In my first post I failed to qualify my comment by saying that I was referring to those with power in the church. In my second comment I added that clarification in. I understand that you work for the church, and the "couple" you're referring to also work for the church. But I would not consider either you or them to hold any power within the church.
Jesus is like Pinocchio. He's the bastard son of a carpenter. And a liar. And he wishes he was real.