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A rational explanation for hell?
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RE: A rational explanation for hell?
(September 15, 2010 at 10:05 am)Ace Wrote:
(September 15, 2010 at 9:59 am)lrh9 Wrote: Undecided

You are wrong.

Please explain.

Thank you for requesting further explanation.

Now I have to formulate that explanation.

Quote:Favorable or not. It's extremely irrational. Intelligance is suppost to encourage reason not the opposite. If god sends people to hell simply because he feels like it, then he is not all loving.
The most intelligent beings are the most rational. If god is irrational, he is unintelligent.

You seem to be confusing rational behavior with rational thought.

Rational behavior is behavior that achieves a specific outcome. If a person wanted to eat a ham sandwich and he acquired a ham sandwich and ate it we would say he acted rationally. However, if he wanted to eat a ham sandwich but he acquired an umbrella and threw it in the ocean we would say he acted irrationally.

If a deity wanted to torture someone then it would indeed be rational behavior if it did so.

It is not related to rational thought at all.

Also, remember that my hypothetical situation was never contingent upon an all loving deity.

Finally, don't make the mistake of thinking love or compassion is dependent on rationality, or that rationality is dependent on love or compassion.

See my signature. Generally personal desire and power decide what happens in any situation. Thinking is merely a sometimes absent intermediary step.
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A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - September 15, 2010 at 9:23 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Skipper - September 15, 2010 at 9:28 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by theophilus - September 15, 2010 at 1:03 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Zen Badger - September 15, 2010 at 9:31 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Judas BentHer - July 19, 2011 at 11:25 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by DeistPaladin - September 15, 2010 at 9:34 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - September 15, 2010 at 9:37 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 19, 2011 at 10:40 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Darwinian - July 20, 2011 at 5:11 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 20, 2011 at 7:37 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Darwinian - July 20, 2011 at 7:48 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - July 20, 2011 at 8:20 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - July 21, 2011 at 4:25 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by lrh9 - September 15, 2010 at 9:44 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - September 15, 2010 at 9:55 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by lrh9 - September 15, 2010 at 9:59 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - September 15, 2010 at 10:05 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by lrh9 - September 15, 2010 at 10:22 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - September 15, 2010 at 11:06 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by chatpilot - September 15, 2010 at 10:01 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Watson - September 15, 2010 at 12:09 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - September 15, 2010 at 12:31 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Godschild - September 17, 2010 at 12:55 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - September 17, 2010 at 4:56 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by tackattack - September 15, 2010 at 12:39 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Skipper - September 15, 2010 at 1:17 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Captain Scarlet - September 15, 2010 at 1:27 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by tackattack - September 15, 2010 at 1:29 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Skipper - September 15, 2010 at 2:21 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 19, 2011 at 11:10 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Captain Scarlet - September 16, 2010 at 6:43 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by tackattack - September 15, 2010 at 3:32 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Skipper - September 15, 2010 at 3:44 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - September 15, 2010 at 6:00 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by chasm - September 15, 2010 at 6:08 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by theVOID - September 15, 2010 at 6:20 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by HeyItsZeus - September 15, 2010 at 8:19 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Entropist - September 15, 2010 at 8:13 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 19, 2011 at 11:32 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - July 20, 2011 at 5:52 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by anonymous108 - January 24, 2014 at 9:32 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by krazedkat - September 15, 2010 at 8:47 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Anymouse - July 20, 2011 at 5:20 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by tackattack - September 15, 2010 at 8:09 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by tackattack - September 15, 2010 at 8:32 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by solja247 - September 15, 2010 at 8:38 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Skipper - September 16, 2010 at 4:10 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by solja247 - September 15, 2010 at 8:50 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Entropist - September 15, 2010 at 9:01 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by tackattack - September 15, 2010 at 10:48 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Entropist - September 15, 2010 at 11:30 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by krazedkat - September 15, 2010 at 11:32 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by blood_pardon - September 16, 2010 at 1:30 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Welsh cake - September 16, 2010 at 5:55 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by tackattack - September 16, 2010 at 6:56 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Skipper - September 16, 2010 at 7:09 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by tackattack - September 16, 2010 at 9:51 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Skipper - September 16, 2010 at 10:07 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by tackattack - September 16, 2010 at 10:46 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by tackattack - September 17, 2010 at 11:52 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Welsh cake - September 17, 2010 at 3:02 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by blood_pardon - September 20, 2010 at 1:38 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - September 20, 2010 at 8:48 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Skipper - September 20, 2010 at 4:28 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by blood_pardon - September 20, 2010 at 4:56 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Skipper - September 20, 2010 at 5:35 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Rayaan - September 20, 2010 at 5:42 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by blood_pardon - September 20, 2010 at 5:48 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Skipper - September 20, 2010 at 5:59 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Entropist - September 20, 2010 at 8:54 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by blood_pardon - September 20, 2010 at 7:23 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Skipper - September 20, 2010 at 7:27 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Soyouz - September 20, 2010 at 2:23 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Captain Scarlet - September 20, 2010 at 2:56 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by leo-rcc - September 20, 2010 at 3:00 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Soyouz - September 20, 2010 at 3:01 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by leo-rcc - September 20, 2010 at 3:03 pm
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RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by blood_pardon - September 20, 2010 at 4:00 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Soyouz - September 20, 2010 at 4:27 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by chatpilot - September 20, 2010 at 4:36 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by blood_pardon - September 20, 2010 at 4:45 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by tackattack - September 20, 2010 at 10:39 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Anomalocaris - September 27, 2010 at 5:12 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by tackattack - September 27, 2010 at 12:28 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - September 27, 2010 at 6:27 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Minimalist - July 19, 2011 at 11:05 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Kayenneh - July 20, 2011 at 3:56 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Welsh cake - July 20, 2011 at 7:40 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 20, 2011 at 8:06 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Darwinian - July 20, 2011 at 8:17 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 20, 2011 at 8:26 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - July 20, 2011 at 8:41 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Mad Militant - July 20, 2011 at 9:00 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 20, 2011 at 9:17 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Mad Militant - July 20, 2011 at 9:48 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - July 21, 2011 at 6:20 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Autumnlicious - July 20, 2011 at 7:59 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Mad Militant - July 20, 2011 at 8:16 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Minimalist - July 20, 2011 at 9:25 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 24, 2011 at 6:39 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Judas BentHer - July 20, 2011 at 10:56 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Judas BentHer - July 21, 2011 at 3:30 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by CharlieMilles - July 21, 2011 at 4:44 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Autumnlicious - July 21, 2011 at 2:43 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by BethK - July 21, 2011 at 4:22 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Judas BentHer - July 21, 2011 at 5:32 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Welsh cake - July 22, 2011 at 5:35 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Judas BentHer - July 22, 2011 at 12:43 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - July 22, 2011 at 1:08 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Judas BentHer - July 22, 2011 at 1:28 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - July 22, 2011 at 1:37 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by BethK - July 24, 2011 at 12:12 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - July 25, 2011 at 1:23 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by DeistPaladin - July 25, 2011 at 8:29 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 25, 2011 at 7:39 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by DeistPaladin - July 25, 2011 at 8:56 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Kayenneh - July 24, 2011 at 1:19 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 24, 2011 at 9:35 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Judas BentHer - July 24, 2011 at 10:41 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - July 25, 2011 at 8:58 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Godschild - July 25, 2011 at 1:15 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by DeistPaladin - July 25, 2011 at 1:23 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - July 25, 2011 at 1:36 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - July 25, 2011 at 2:32 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Minimalist - July 25, 2011 at 2:10 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 26, 2011 at 1:16 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Minimalist - July 27, 2011 at 2:33 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - July 25, 2011 at 10:52 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Godschild - July 26, 2011 at 1:22 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - July 26, 2011 at 1:32 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - July 28, 2011 at 1:33 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Godschild - July 28, 2011 at 2:59 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - July 28, 2011 at 3:34 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Godschild - July 29, 2011 at 1:40 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by edk - July 29, 2011 at 1:47 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - July 29, 2011 at 6:27 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - July 26, 2011 at 9:35 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Godschild - July 27, 2011 at 1:26 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 26, 2011 at 2:00 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - July 26, 2011 at 8:57 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 28, 2011 at 9:12 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - July 28, 2011 at 9:06 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Minimalist - July 28, 2011 at 4:02 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - July 28, 2011 at 4:14 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 31, 2011 at 4:07 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 31, 2011 at 4:35 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - August 1, 2011 at 3:30 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Cinjin - August 1, 2011 at 3:48 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by edk - July 29, 2011 at 2:42 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Captain Scarlet - August 14, 2011 at 1:26 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Minimalist - July 31, 2011 at 4:23 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 31, 2011 at 6:50 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 31, 2011 at 7:24 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - July 31, 2011 at 7:26 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Minimalist - July 31, 2011 at 11:07 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 31, 2011 at 8:47 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - July 31, 2011 at 8:58 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by edk - July 31, 2011 at 10:17 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - July 31, 2011 at 11:15 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 2, 2011 at 7:08 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - August 3, 2011 at 12:52 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 12, 2011 at 8:41 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - August 12, 2011 at 11:50 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Cinjin - August 12, 2011 at 11:58 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - August 13, 2011 at 12:01 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 14, 2011 at 9:13 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - August 15, 2011 at 1:01 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Jackalope - August 15, 2011 at 5:41 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 17, 2011 at 10:27 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Jackalope - August 18, 2011 at 1:48 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - August 1, 2011 at 4:01 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by fr0d0 - August 1, 2011 at 6:49 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - August 1, 2011 at 7:42 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by fr0d0 - August 1, 2011 at 10:59 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2011 at 10:09 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 1, 2011 at 10:44 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 2, 2011 at 7:59 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 14, 2011 at 9:53 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 14, 2011 at 10:38 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 14, 2011 at 11:21 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by padraic - August 15, 2011 at 1:16 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by KichigaiNeko - August 15, 2011 at 6:24 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 15, 2011 at 8:40 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by KichigaiNeko - August 15, 2011 at 8:45 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Welsh cake - August 15, 2011 at 1:09 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Captain Scarlet - August 15, 2011 at 2:34 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 17, 2011 at 10:06 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 15, 2011 at 10:32 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Jackalope - August 16, 2011 at 3:43 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2011 at 10:13 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2011 at 10:44 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 17, 2011 at 10:52 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2011 at 10:59 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 17, 2011 at 11:03 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 18, 2011 at 12:03 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Minimalist - August 18, 2011 at 1:05 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 11:47 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 18, 2011 at 8:11 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Minimalist - August 18, 2011 at 12:09 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 12:13 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Minimalist - August 18, 2011 at 12:27 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 12:33 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 8:29 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 18, 2011 at 9:00 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 9:09 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 18, 2011 at 9:18 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by BethK - August 18, 2011 at 9:29 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 18, 2011 at 9:09 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 9:19 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 18, 2011 at 9:31 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 9:38 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 18, 2011 at 9:47 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 9:53 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 18, 2011 at 10:36 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - August 18, 2011 at 11:00 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 18, 2011 at 11:28 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - August 18, 2011 at 11:51 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 19, 2011 at 7:30 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 19, 2011 at 1:39 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Captain Scarlet - August 19, 2011 at 5:11 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 18, 2011 at 10:39 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 18, 2011 at 10:46 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 18, 2011 at 10:47 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 18, 2011 at 11:02 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 18, 2011 at 11:16 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 19, 2011 at 8:49 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Jackalope - August 19, 2011 at 1:41 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 19, 2011 at 7:46 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Captain Scarlet - August 19, 2011 at 9:38 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 19, 2011 at 7:44 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 19, 2011 at 7:54 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 20, 2011 at 12:12 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 20, 2011 at 12:58 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2011 at 1:11 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 21, 2011 at 5:48 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 21, 2011 at 12:12 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2011 at 6:26 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 21, 2011 at 6:53 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 21, 2011 at 11:27 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 22, 2011 at 7:46 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 22, 2011 at 8:51 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Darkstar - January 24, 2014 at 12:53 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Cinjin - January 24, 2014 at 4:47 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Minimalist - January 24, 2014 at 5:47 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Mudhammam - January 26, 2014 at 9:08 am

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