(February 1, 2017 at 12:33 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: I refuse to debate various doctrines like eternal conscious torment, annihilation, or universalism with atheists. With all due respect Drich, Steve, and RR79, the scriptures as best as I can tell are indeterminate about the ultimate fate of the unrighteous. I've heard good arguments and proof texts supporting each position. The important thing is that His work on the Cross has delivered the faithful from whatever dire fate awaits the unrepentant. I truly feel sad for Astonished. He or she seems badly damaged by an abusive church. That appears to happen all to frequently.
Hey, don't make assumptions about me or my motivations, you miscellaneous-adjective noun that I'm going to leave vague until I know more and can determine an appropriate result. Maybe I only witnessed religion's handiwork second-hand and am just feeling righteous indignation on behalf of others who were victims that I couldn't help. Maybe seeing what it does to the la-di-da types who don't realize it's eating them alive and having any attempts to help them constantly and condescendingly rebuffed is the reason. Not everyone has to have been traumatized personally to have a beef with religion. To not have a beef with it is irrational, frankly.
And the nature of these disparate documents is to be indeterminate, whenever you weave together a primitive fiction how can anyone honestly expect an ounce of coherency?
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.