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Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill
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RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill
(February 25, 2017 at 7:10 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Here's what the Motion 37 (it isn't a bill or a law.  It is a 'motion') actually says:

In the opinion of this House, the Legislative Assembly of Ontario should reaffirm that diversity has always played an important part in Ontario's culture and heritage; recognize the significant contributions Muslims have made, and continue to make, to Ontario's cultural and social fabric and prosperity; stand against all forms of hatred, hostility, prejudice, racism and intolerance; rebuke the notable growing tide of anti-Muslim rhetoric and sentiments; denounce hate-attacks, threats of violence and hate crimes against people of the Muslim faith; condemn all forms of Islamophobia and reaffirm its support for government's efforts, through the Anti-Racism Directorate, to address and prevent systemic racism across government policy, programs and services, and increase anti-racism education and awareness, including Islamophobia, in all parts of the province.

I'm unsure how anyone could have a problem with this.

Boru



These parts, I don't have much of a problem with, with exceptions:

Quote:the Legislative Assembly of Ontario should reaffirm that diversity has always played an important part in Ontario's culture and heritage; recognize the significant contributions Muslims have made, and continue to make, to Ontario's cultural and social fabric and prosperity; stand against all forms of hatred, hostility, prejudice, racism and intolerance;

Bold, mine.

This could, of course, just as easily say "minorities", and not single-out Muslims as if they have made more contributions than anyone else.


Quote:denounce hate-attacks, threats of violence and hate crimes against people of the Muslim faith

Bold, mine.

I don't feel it needed to single-out people of "the Muslim faith".  This should apply to everyone.

Quote:reaffirm its support for government's efforts, through the Anti-Racism Directorate, to address and prevent systemic racism across government policy, programs and services, and increase anti-racism education and awareness


By itself, this part is just fine; it is commendable to address and prevent racism.



But with this, I take issue:

Quote:rebuke the notable growing tide of anti-Muslim rhetoric and sentiments;

I would prefer it said "anti-Islam" rather than "anti-Muslim", because then it points out that it is okay to criticize the religion itself,
as opposed to persecuting individuals who are simply members of a religion.

This is one of those statements that I feel is unclear and open to interpretation;
I don't want it to be against the law to criticize a religion.

Quote:condemn all forms of Islamophobia

Again, this needs clarification.  If Islamophobia means an irrational fear of something that you have no reason to fear, and prejudice or persecution against members of a group, simply because they are of that group, then fine.

Again, I think Homophobia is a true phobia; there is no rational reason to fear the LGBT community simply because they are LGBT, and they should of course enjoy the same rights to marry, etc, as non-LGBT.

But my fear of Islam...and indeed all religion...is not a "phobia".  It is not irrational at all. 
I have a mountain of reasons to fear religion.

And by legislating that it is illegal to have a rational fear of something,
and to make it unclear just how far am I am permitted to go, if at all, in criticizing that thing,
(IE: "condemn(ing) all forms of Islamophobia")
is to trample on my rights.

Quote:condemn all forms of Islamophobia and reaffirm its support for government's efforts, through the Anti-Racism Directorate

Bold, mine.

Again:  the difference between the "phobia" (the irrational fear, and hence the racism)
and the rational fear, needs to be clarified,

because, again,

Islam is not a Race.

It is a huge religion, which, like Christianity, laps over many races. 


No-one would say to someone who criticized Christianity, "Oh, you're a racist."
Because it wouldn't have any meaning.


There are Christian Arabs.  There are are Caucasian Muslims.


Again, I have a huge amount of respect for an Arab in an Islamic country who risks his life for the sake of his Apostasy.

Far more than I have for a docile, obedient, little sheep of a white North American Christian.


Another illustration:

Tibetan Buddhist monks are just as different and just as foreign to me as Arab Muslims,
yet they don't seem to instill the same amount of fear, somehow,
and white North Americans don't seem to have nearly as much of a problem with them.

The line between criticizing the religion, and deeming that racism, needs to be drawn.
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Messages In This Thread
Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by MTL - February 24, 2017 at 8:45 pm
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by Jesster - February 24, 2017 at 8:50 pm
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by vorlon13 - February 24, 2017 at 8:58 pm
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by MTL - February 24, 2017 at 9:03 pm
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by abaris - February 24, 2017 at 9:05 pm
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by MTL - February 24, 2017 at 9:26 pm
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by CapnAwesome - February 28, 2017 at 1:49 pm
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by abaris - February 28, 2017 at 2:20 pm
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by ignoramus - February 24, 2017 at 9:14 pm
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by brewer - February 24, 2017 at 9:41 pm
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by abaris - February 24, 2017 at 9:44 pm
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by brewer - February 24, 2017 at 9:55 pm
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by ignoramus - February 25, 2017 at 6:06 am
Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by KUSA - February 24, 2017 at 10:57 pm
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by brewer - February 25, 2017 at 8:23 am
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by MTL - February 25, 2017 at 9:13 am
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by abaris - February 25, 2017 at 9:41 am
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by Jesster - February 25, 2017 at 11:29 am
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by vorlon13 - February 25, 2017 at 11:40 am
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by Mr Greene - February 25, 2017 at 2:26 pm
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by Exian - February 25, 2017 at 6:13 pm
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by abaris - February 25, 2017 at 6:18 pm
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by Exian - February 25, 2017 at 6:29 pm
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by abaris - February 25, 2017 at 6:37 pm
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by Autumnlicious - February 26, 2017 at 1:56 pm
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by MTL - February 27, 2017 at 10:25 am
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by Mister Agenda - February 27, 2017 at 11:51 am
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by Autumnlicious - February 27, 2017 at 3:50 pm
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by MTL - February 28, 2017 at 12:30 am
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by MTL - February 28, 2017 at 2:36 am
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by Crunchy - February 27, 2017 at 8:27 pm
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by Autumnlicious - February 28, 2017 at 1:02 am
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by Crunchy - February 28, 2017 at 1:08 pm
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by abaris - February 28, 2017 at 1:16 pm
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by Crunchy - February 28, 2017 at 6:08 pm
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by brewer - February 28, 2017 at 8:43 am
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by Regina - February 28, 2017 at 1:37 pm
RE: Ontario Passes Anti-Islamophobia Bill - by abaris - February 28, 2017 at 1:41 pm

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