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Question for Deists
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RE: Question for Deists
(March 30, 2017 at 11:42 pm)ma5t3r0fpupp3t5 Wrote:
(March 30, 2017 at 10:27 pm)SteveII Wrote: You are not only wrong, you are using the wrong term. The term is abstract objects and as such are mind-independent components of reality.

Actually, abstract refers to that which exists only as thoughts or ideas without being part of external reality. So, when you say abstract objects are mind-independent, you're contradicting yourself.

No, abstract is the opposite of concrete when you are discussing this subject and includes much more than thoughts or ideas. What does "external reality" mean? 

Quote:Abstract and concrete (German: abstrakt; konkret)[1] are classifications that denote whether a term describes an object with a physical referent or one with no physical referents. They are most commonly used in philosophy and semantics. Abstract objects are sometimes called abstracta (sing. abstractum) and concrete objects are sometimes called concreta (sing. concretum). An abstract object is an object which does not exist at any particular time or place, but rather exists as a type of thing, i.e., an idea, or abstraction.[2] The term 'abstract object' is said to have been coined by Willard Van Orman Quine.[3] The study of abstract objects is called abstract object theory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstract_and_concrete
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Question for Deists - by Fred Hampton - March 25, 2017 at 2:42 pm
RE: Question for Deists - by SteveII - March 27, 2017 at 7:10 am
RE: Question for Deists - by Harry Nevis - March 27, 2017 at 9:35 am
RE: Question for Deists - by SteveII - March 27, 2017 at 10:02 am
RE: Question for Deists - by masterofpuppets - March 27, 2017 at 10:29 am
RE: Question for Deists - by SteveII - March 27, 2017 at 12:22 pm
RE: Question for Deists - by masterofpuppets - March 27, 2017 at 12:40 pm
RE: Question for Deists - by SteveII - March 27, 2017 at 1:34 pm
RE: Question for Deists - by masterofpuppets - March 27, 2017 at 9:07 pm
RE: Question for Deists - by SteveII - March 28, 2017 at 4:47 pm
RE: Question for Deists - by Edwardo Piet - March 27, 2017 at 12:10 pm
RE: Question for Deists - by downbeatplumb - March 27, 2017 at 1:40 pm
RE: Question for Deists - by SteveII - March 27, 2017 at 2:13 pm
RE: Question for Deists - by drfuzzy - March 27, 2017 at 4:29 pm
RE: Question for Deists - by TheoneandonlytrueGod - March 30, 2017 at 7:51 pm
RE: Question for Deists - by vorlon13 - March 27, 2017 at 9:43 am
RE: Question for Deists - by Isis - March 27, 2017 at 12:01 pm
RE: Question for Deists - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 27, 2017 at 12:12 pm
RE: Question for Deists - by FatAndFaithless - March 27, 2017 at 12:13 pm
RE: Question for Deists - by Edwardo Piet - March 27, 2017 at 12:27 pm
RE: Question for Deists - by Minimalist - March 27, 2017 at 12:51 pm
RE: Question for Deists - by SuperSentient - March 27, 2017 at 8:52 pm
RE: Question for Deists - by Edwardo Piet - March 28, 2017 at 3:11 pm
RE: Question for Deists - by SteveII - March 30, 2017 at 10:27 pm
RE: Question for Deists - by masterofpuppets - March 30, 2017 at 11:42 pm
RE: Question for Deists - by SteveII - March 31, 2017 at 8:57 am
RE: Question for Deists - by masterofpuppets - April 1, 2017 at 12:28 am

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