10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer

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When a person makes the positive statement that God does not exist it is up to them to prove their statement. By your very own statements you put Christians in the Defense category and the atheist is the prosecution category.

It's very frustrating to present an argument to someone who can't comprehend it. You got it exactly backwards. The theists are the ones trying to establish that a claim about the existence of something is true, they're the  prosecution (trying to establish that something happened and who did it); the defense is pointing out that they've failed to adequately establish their case, they're the atheists. No one would even know they're an atheist if they hadn't heard that someone was claiming some sort of deity exists. The burden of proof doesn't shift so fluidly, it's not just a matter of who said it first, it's what they're really claiming. The person who said it could have corrected me, and said no, no, Mister Agenda, I meant there's absolutely no chance God is real and wasn't just speaking shorthand for 'the existence of God has not been established sufficiently to justify rational belief in it, in my humble opinion'. I was able to pick up on what was actually meant, and you were not, yet you think I'm less discerning on the matter than you are. What was it I said about people who are full of themselves?

Atheist are always telling Christians they have to defend their claims. I know what you were trying to say but you were the one turning the argument around to fit your belief.
God hasn't ever tried to justify His existence not even in His word and I only witness to what I believe.

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You need to prove they do not believe Brahma doesn't lie. Do their writings say this? The Bible given to us by God says He doesn't lie. The Hindus have so many gods they probably can't even name them all nor tell us what they are for. Do the gods in other religions give their believers words directly from them saying they do not lie. 

 

Did you ever meet a red herring you didn't like? Are you just trying to get me to run Google errands for you to waste my time? I just threw out an example, I wasn't proclaiming a truth about Hinduism. So naturally you fixate on that, because nothing is more important to you than getting in a 'gotcha', including Jesus, apparently. So I'll happily switch my example to one more certain, Rama, the Hindu god of truth and virtue. The seventh avatar of Vishnu, which means truth and virtue are also attributes of Vishnu, and by extension, his other avatars. Supposedly Rama had all the desirable virtues that anyone would aspire to and fulfills all of his moral obligations.  You seem to be clinging to semantics to establish the existence of God. That's not a very good sign of having a strong case, but it's an excellent sign of someone who knows they have a weak one.

I'm not trying to get you to run errands on Google, what my answer did was to establish you made an assumption and didn't proclaim a truth. I wasn't interested in a 'gotcha' either, that's what some of the childish atheist here do, not referring to you. Like I said the Hindus have thousands of gods and this makes it less likely all are truthful, just as we see in the Greek gods. My case is strong, I have one God who gave us one book to reveal himself through and I can find no fault in any of it. This is my own personal belief that God has proven to me through a personal relationship.

GC 

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No atheist here is aware that I believe in God, they keep telling me I can't because He doesn't exist, yet no one has ever proven He doesn't. You see for me belief is trusting in something real, not something imagined. My personal experiences with God are just that, a relationship through experiencing God, they are to be valid for me within that relationship. My statements about experiencing God to know He is real is something the Bible teaches and I was relating that to the readers of my post.

I dare you to say something more inane. You would have to be a complete moron to believe that atheists here don't believe that you believe in God. Belief: holding something to be true. It's better not to comment at all if you can't think of a better comeback than that. Are you compelled to disagree with absolutely everything I say, even when it's pointless?

I knew what you were referring to, but when you keep hearing from the atheist here that you can't believe in God because He doesn't exist you know they must mean what they say, am I to call them a liar about what they believe about me. So, you see it wasn't a come back but a statement from what I've been told many, many times. I can ask you the same thing because you disagree with everything I say.

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So it's not okay for a parent to teach their children what they want them to hear. Then evolution needs to be out of school classes until these children can become critical thinkers, the PBS stations need to stop the indoctrination of small children through their programs aimed at those pre-schoolers. They are not teaching they're brainwashing.

 

It's their right to do so, largely because the alternatives to not allowing them to teach their own children what they want is much worse. That doesn't mean it's great the parents can teach their children whatever they want. Do you think it's okay for Hindu parents to teach their children to believe in Hinduism, given that you likely think those children are damned to hell if they don't shake off that teaching, but it's an unfortunate reality that you just have to live with?  I would prefer that children be given the most current information available to the modern world on all subjects and to be taught to scrutinize claims critically as young as is appropriate to their stage of development, while not teaching them that any kind of folklore refers to something actually real, but there's no ethical way to accomplish that except through the eventual triumph of sweet reason, of which I'm not optimistic.

I would rather the Hindus had no such desire to teach their children about their religion, because I know it's not about the true God. However, they have that right and it's not for me to interfere with that right. Christian parents have the same right with their children. What I object to is parents have no choice what's taught to their children in school. Evolution is forced on these children and i know parents who dislike it and can't afford private schools or can home school. You haven't established Christianity and the God of Christians are not real.

GC

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Thank you for supporting my above statement, because evolution is far from evidence based.  We can teach children where the universe came from, people like yourself can't even explain where the stuff came from before the big bang. Want a fairy tale to sale to children, tell them that the entire universe came from a golf ball sized piece of material, oh yeah I forgot you have already indoctrinated many children into believing this to be the truth and you have not even addressed where the material came from. 

  

Where do YOU think the idea of evolution came from, if not evidence? Was is Satan whispering in Darwin's ear and the vast majority of biological scientists ever who have claimed to have found supporting evidence since have been in on the Satanic conspiracy? What is supposed to be taught in science class if you reject science? No wonder so many home-schooled kids become atheists right after getting out of the bubble of ignorance their parents tried to keep them in .

Do I believe that evolution is Satan influenced. Yes. Do I think Satan directly lead Darwin to hid belief, I have no idea, what I do know is Darwin wasn't the originator of the idea. There is no real evidence for evolution. Atheist here want to deflect the subject to recent time and call the small changes that happen in animals, bacteria and viruses as evolution. It's not especially compared to what is claimed, different things becomes something else. There is no evidence for this only assumptions, this idea has never been shown to of happened. I know many home schooled people and they are still strong Christians. By the way home schooling is not exclusive to Christians or any other religious group. Science that we know is true is what should be taught, not a fairy tale about animals transforming into something totally different. 

To borrow your argument style for a moment, now that you've claimed that children are being taught that the universe came from a golf-ball sized piece of material, you have to prove it. That might be difficult, since there's no evidence at all known to science that the universe came from a golf-ball sized ball of material (though I suppose it may have been the size of a golf-ball for a fraction of a nano-second at some point in its existence,

It's not my claim, this is what I've read about and seen on many science programs on PBS and other programming. Some of the shows have been hosted by your most revered scientist.

GC 

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 This door swings to both sides of the argument, you need to understand it's not a one way street.

GC

I can certainly understand why someone with your perspective would regard a properly basic science education as indoctrination. If it wasn't such a handicap in life to be ignorant of scientific knowledge at the age of 18 and such a detriment to a modern society, I could agree to delaying such education until then if they were also exposed to no religious indoctrination before then as well. The short term effect would be very unfair to the children and probably cause an economic slump, but would likely cause the near-disappearance of religious dogma in one generation, as I'm confident that science will do much better at withstanding critical scrutiny by eighteen-year-olds than religion...science is BASED on withstanding critical scrutiny, it's what's left after everything else has failed to withstand it. I would certainly agree to a mutual non-indoctrination pact if there were a way to implement it ethically. In fact, it's too bad that a limited social experiment can't be run ethically (or practically, given the difficulty of ensuring the children receive some sort of education but no indoctrination whatsoever) on it, the results would be quite illuminating.

 I have no problem with real and truthful science. Evolution has never played a roll in my life and I do just fine and so do many others I know. In a youth group I taught for several years I had very intelligent youth, one is now a nuclear engineer who has been held in high regard by his peers. He's traveled to other parts of the world to study and teach and give advice, he is a strong Christian and he was educated in public schools. Indoctrination will always be a part of our education process because there are adults who need to present their belief without proofs. if we were to use science as it should be there would be no starving people on this planet.

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