RE: Objective morality as a proper basic belief
June 25, 2017 at 9:40 pm
(This post was last modified: June 25, 2017 at 9:42 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 25, 2017 at 9:00 pm)Astonished Wrote: So it is a fact that harming living beings is wrong?These sound like objective statements. I'm sure that you wouldn't have any trouble demonstrating that they were true by reference to facts. I'm sure that you could provide evidence.
It is a fact that it is harmful and that humans value health and harmony over pain and misery (barring some massive defect).
Quote:So there it is. It's based on what you value; living over dying, health and harmony over pain and suffering, the idea of live and let live rather than paranoia and mistrust, security over fear, fulfillment over apathy, intellect over idiocy, rationality and reason over superstition and delusion.
These, too, seem to be objective statements about the nature of man, the nature of morality.
Don't you think it might be possible to construct an objective moral proposition out of these facts? Couldn't an objective moral proposition help to explain, fundamentally, why we prefer one side over the other...in each of those pairings?
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